1 pound battery

loopy · 02-27-2010, 03:48 PM

well as luck would have it with a good friends help i made a speed cell like battery ! and was wondering if there would be any interest for anyone here who would like me to make one for them ?? not sure on cost yet just getting a feel first !!!

mine is a prototype and really ugly future ones will be wayyyyy better

can be made in 4 cell for 600s and 8 cell for 1000 or v twins

loopy · 02-27-2010, 04:38 PM

more for size difference and on a side note it starts and runs my bike better than a brand new lead acid battery !!!

Linker33 · 02-27-2010, 06:13 PM

That's pretty cool. What type of cells did you use?

BLIZANTHIMUM · 02-27-2010, 06:44 PM

i will need one, possibly two.

e11charlie · 02-27-2010, 09:01 PM

That is kind of cool. I imagine it is a dry cell. I might be interested in one. How does it store compared to lead acid? How does a dry cell put out the cranking amps?

loopy · 02-27-2010, 10:31 PM

i copied there initial design and can build both batterys i hope this helps for info !!! if people are interested !! let me know

The new incredible superlight Speedcell battery that produces 1.8 amps per gram of weight.

The SBK battery is a 240 Amp Battery, weighs 1.7 lbs.

It's durable: Less than 10% total capacity loss per year.

No maintenance:

The Speedcell battery requires no maintenance charge; furthermore, SpeedCell does not recommend using chargers of 2 amps or less because trickle charging at low voltage will actually increase the internal resistance of the battery by altering its internal chemistry. The battery will typically lose no more than 10% voltage per year left unattended. If the battery does discharge, per the included instruction sheet, use a 5-25 amp charger on normal lead acid charge mode.

5 amp @14v or less for 30min

25 amp @14v or less for 15min

Safe: These packs are made using A123 cells. The constructions process is proprietary & these packs do not require balancing. The packs are built for motorcycle applications w/ cylindrical cells due to there robust construction & discharge properties. Each PACK is made to a DoD standard, capable of withstanding 100G load, operating temperatures of -50*C to 49*C (-58*F to 120*F). It is important to understand that these packs are NOT RC hobby type packs & their internal construction as well as cell grade reflects this. Each cell is individually tested before it makes it to the construction phase. These packs are not Lithium ION construction. Speedcell uses Lithium Ferrous cells that are not volatile or unstable. They will not rupture when puncture nor produce an energy chain.

Caution: Either remove the battery or avoid having the battery come in contact with water during washing as lithium is hydrophobic.

SUPERBIKE Specs:

- Pulse discharge @ 10 seconds = 240 Amps
- Continuous discharge (MAX) = 140 Amps
- Cycle Life (DoD spec) = 1,000 cycles

- Dimensions = 10.5cm (L) x 5cm (W) / 4.13" (L) x 1.96" (W)
- Weight = 766.57g / 1.69lbs
- Rating = 4.6Ah
- Applications = Two cylinder engines 600 cc to 1000cc or 4 cylinder 750-1200cc with stock stators as well as Triumph 675 and some singles.

The SBK battery is designed for: Stock engines 600 cc twins to 1000cc with stock stators and compression as well as Triumph 675. The SBK 4.6 Ah battery is also recommended for modified engines under 750cc as well.

*Hard starting motors larger than 900cc with hi compression pistons may need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah batteries. Bikes with minimal or non-existent (total Loss) charging system will need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah as well. Check with us for the proper application. Prolonged repeated starting attempts on a smaller Speedcell battery than recommended can overheat and damage the Speedcell battery.

loopy · 02-27-2010, 10:33 PM

this is there info i am using the same cells

Linker33 · 02-27-2010, 11:21 PM

Time to scrounge up some Dewalt Batt packs for those sweet A123 cells.....

e11charlie · 02-27-2010, 11:40 PM

Yeah I would be interested in one. Let me know when you get the price hacked out. Question though, Lithium is one of the alkali earth metals which reacts violently to water right? What is Lithium ferrous and why does it not react the same way? Or does it? Sorry I like chemistry not to jack your thread.

Linker33 · 02-28-2010, 12:24 AM

I've was into RC helicopters awhile back, and apparently RC people are using these A123 cells for RC applications. Apparently there on par with LiPo batts.

loopy · 02-28-2010, 11:14 AM

better than lipo no cell balancing and no risk of blowing up !!!!!! you will have to see it at the meet and greet

mxroostin · 03-01-2010, 09:58 AM

I would be down for one...love to get some extra room and move pc to that spot...

loopy · 03-01-2010, 10:29 AM

sweet sorry i missed out on the ride i was and am still hurting man i hate back pain

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxroostin

I would be down for one...love to get some extra room and move pc to that spot...

theduckllr · 03-01-2010, 11:50 AM

I am very interested in one of these. The stock Ducati battery and box is 8+lbs. This has got to be, dollar for dollar, the best weight loss mod out there. It also has to be one of the most significant next to replacing the stock exhaust system.

whitedevil · 03-01-2010, 12:00 PM

Loopy, that has got to be one of the coolest things I have seen on this forum in a long long LONG TIME!

SWEET!

loopy · 03-01-2010, 02:21 PM

thanks man after i put this on my bike the front wheel comes up on command even easier with a full tank !!! due to the cost of the batterys im roughly thinking 120 for the four cell and 150 for the eight cell if anyone is interested i can do quick connects and normal terminated ends depending on your choice the battery can be long and flat or a brick !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by theduckllr

I am very interested in one of these. The stock Ducati battery and box is 8+lbs. This has got to be, dollar for dollar, the best weight loss mod out there. It also has to be one of the most significant next to replacing the stock exhaust system.

loopy · 03-01-2010, 02:21 PM

thanks man

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitedevil

Loopy, that has got to be one of the coolest things I have seen on this forum in a long long LONG TIME!

SWEET!

Jermacide · 03-01-2010, 02:43 PM

loopy you know the only reason your bikes nose comes off the ground so well is because you have a better power to weight ratio than most of us......

on a side note....the 22lbs of fat I have dropped off my ass has seriously improved my bikes acceleration....

Waldo · 03-02-2010, 04:32 AM

I do not feel like going on a diet so I guess I will need one of these to compensate.

mxroostin · 03-02-2010, 09:42 AM

I will take one. but first I need to figure out where my electical problem is...I keeps draining the current battery, so I am plugged into a battery tender 24 7

Jermacide · 03-02-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxroostin

I will take one. but first I need to figure out where my electical problem is...I keeps draining the current battery, so I am plugged into a battery tender 24 7

would it have anything to do with your GPS/Lowjack like system you have installed?

loopy · 03-02-2010, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermacide

would it have anything to do with your GPS/Lowjack like system you have installed?

i second that lol

mxroostin · 03-03-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermacide

would it have anything to do with your GPS/Lowjack like system you have installed?

i would say that is 100% of the reason...

Jermacide · 03-03-2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxroostin

i would say that is 100% of the reason...

can you not install a manual switch? say turn it off while in the garage or out on rides etc? I guess that would defeat the purpose..

BLIZANTHIMUM · 03-03-2010, 12:17 PM

or Lynn could just ride it more often

mxroostin · 03-03-2010, 12:19 PM

I would like to ride it more often...For some reason it doesnt start in cold/rainy weather...

loopy · 03-05-2010, 09:12 PM

thats just the rider

badass1000 · 04-05-2010, 12:50 AM

You can not use a trickle charger on these correct? If you use a standard 5 amp car charger will it damage the battery if you leave the charger on for too long?
full spectrum makes a continuously variable automatic charger for this type of battery, but it is very expensive. Any other ideas on a automatic charger?
I am very interested.

theduckllr · 04-05-2010, 03:55 PM

Big no on the trickle charger.

AndrewM87 · 04-05-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theduckllr

Big no on the trickle charger.

But that's a little no....

theduckllr · 04-05-2010, 08:16 PM

Just making sure you were paying attention.

03-01-2010, 02:43 PM	#18
Jermacide Senior Member Joined: Feb 2010 From: id Posts: 360	loopy you know the only reason your bikes nose comes off the ground so well is because you have a better power to weight ratio than most of us...... on a side note....the 22lbs of fat I have dropped off my ass has seriously improved my bikes acceleration.... Last edited by Jermacide; 03-02-2010 at 09:38 AM.

04-05-2010, 12:50 AM	#28
badass1000 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 160	You can not use a trickle charger on these correct? If you use a standard 5 amp car charger will it damage the battery if you leave the charger on for too long? full spectrum makes a continuously variable automatic charger for this type of battery, but it is very expensive. Any other ideas on a automatic charger? I am very interested. Last edited by badass1000; 04-06-2010 at 12:51 AM.

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02-27-2010, 06:13 PM	#3
Linker33 Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 From: Boise, ID Posts: 1,425 I Ride: '02 GSXR 600	That's pretty cool. What type of cells did you use?

02-27-2010, 06:44 PM	#4
BLIZANTHIMUM Senior Member Joined: Apr 2007 From: K-town yo! Posts: 3,202 I Ride: YURMOM	i will need one, possibly two.

02-27-2010, 09:01 PM	#5
e11charlie Senior Member Joined: May 2009 From: no where Posts: 2,629	That is kind of cool. I imagine it is a dry cell. I might be interested in one. How does it store compared to lead acid? How does a dry cell put out the cranking amps?

02-27-2010, 10:31 PM	#6
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	i copied there initial design and can build both batterys i hope this helps for info !!! if people are interested !! let me know The new incredible superlight Speedcell battery that produces 1.8 amps per gram of weight. The SBK battery is a 240 Amp Battery, weighs 1.7 lbs. It's durable: Less than 10% total capacity loss per year. No maintenance: The Speedcell battery requires no maintenance charge; furthermore, SpeedCell does not recommend using chargers of 2 amps or less because trickle charging at low voltage will actually increase the internal resistance of the battery by altering its internal chemistry. The battery will typically lose no more than 10% voltage per year left unattended. If the battery does discharge, per the included instruction sheet, use a 5-25 amp charger on normal lead acid charge mode. 5 amp @14v or less for 30min 25 amp @14v or less for 15min Safe: These packs are made using A123 cells. The constructions process is proprietary & these packs do not require balancing. The packs are built for motorcycle applications w/ cylindrical cells due to there robust construction & discharge properties. Each PACK is made to a DoD standard, capable of withstanding 100G load, operating temperatures of -50C to 49C (-58F to 120F). It is important to understand that these packs are NOT RC hobby type packs & their internal construction as well as cell grade reflects this. Each cell is individually tested before it makes it to the construction phase. These packs are not Lithium ION construction. Speedcell uses Lithium Ferrous cells that are not volatile or unstable. They will not rupture when puncture nor produce an energy chain. Caution: Either remove the battery or avoid having the battery come in contact with water during washing as lithium is hydrophobic. SUPERBIKE Specs: - Pulse discharge @ 10 seconds = 240 Amps - Continuous discharge (MAX) = 140 Amps - Cycle Life (DoD spec) = 1,000 cycles - Dimensions = 10.5cm (L) x 5cm (W) / 4.13" (L) x 1.96" (W) - Weight = 766.57g / 1.69lbs - Rating = 4.6Ah - Applications = Two cylinder engines 600 cc to 1000cc or 4 cylinder 750-1200cc with stock stators as well as Triumph 675 and some singles. The SBK battery is designed for: Stock engines 600 cc twins to 1000cc with stock stators and compression as well as Triumph 675. The SBK 4.6 Ah battery is also recommended for modified engines under 750cc as well. *Hard starting motors larger than 900cc with hi compression pistons may need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah batteries. Bikes with minimal or non-existent (total Loss) charging system will need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah as well. Check with us for the proper application. Prolonged repeated starting attempts on a smaller Speedcell battery than recommended can overheat and damage the Speedcell battery.

02-27-2010, 10:33 PM	#7
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	this is there info i am using the same cells

02-27-2010, 11:21 PM	#8
Linker33 Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 From: Boise, ID Posts: 1,425 I Ride: '02 GSXR 600	Time to scrounge up some Dewalt Batt packs for those sweet A123 cells.....

02-27-2010, 11:40 PM	#9
e11charlie Senior Member Joined: May 2009 From: no where Posts: 2,629	Yeah I would be interested in one. Let me know when you get the price hacked out. Question though, Lithium is one of the alkali earth metals which reacts violently to water right? What is Lithium ferrous and why does it not react the same way? Or does it? Sorry I like chemistry not to jack your thread.

02-28-2010, 12:24 AM	#10
Linker33 Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 From: Boise, ID Posts: 1,425 I Ride: '02 GSXR 600	I've was into RC helicopters awhile back, and apparently RC people are using these A123 cells for RC applications. Apparently there on par with LiPo batts.

02-28-2010, 11:14 AM	#11
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	better than lipo no cell balancing and no risk of blowing up !!!!!! you will have to see it at the meet and greet

03-01-2010, 09:58 AM	#12
mxroostin Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: Meridian Posts: 1,060 I Ride: CBR 1000 RR	I would be down for one...love to get some extra room and move pc to that spot...

03-01-2010, 11:50 AM	#14
theduckllr Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: Boise Posts: 2,686 I Ride: The Armageddon bike, Orange Crush, Panagale Tricolor	I am very interested in one of these. The stock Ducati battery and box is 8+lbs. This has got to be, dollar for dollar, the best weight loss mod out there. It also has to be one of the most significant next to replacing the stock exhaust system.

03-01-2010, 12:00 PM	#15
whitedevil Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Que Nah Posts: 5,876 I Ride: F4i CBR600	Loopy, that has got to be one of the coolest things I have seen on this forum in a long long LONG TIME! SWEET!

03-02-2010, 04:32 AM	#19
Waldo Joined: Jun 2007 From: What does it matter? Posts: 1,682 I Ride: RVT1000R RC51 SP1/SP2	I do not feel like going on a diet so I guess I will need one of these to compensate.

03-02-2010, 09:42 AM	#20
mxroostin Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: Meridian Posts: 1,060 I Ride: CBR 1000 RR	I will take one. but first I need to figure out where my electical problem is...I keeps draining the current battery, so I am plugged into a battery tender 24 7

03-03-2010, 12:17 PM	#25
BLIZANTHIMUM Senior Member Joined: Apr 2007 From: K-town yo! Posts: 3,202 I Ride: YURMOM	or Lynn could just ride it more often

03-03-2010, 12:19 PM	#26
mxroostin Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: Meridian Posts: 1,060 I Ride: CBR 1000 RR	I would like to ride it more often...For some reason it doesnt start in cold/rainy weather...

03-05-2010, 09:12 PM	#27
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	thats just the rider

04-05-2010, 03:55 PM	#29
theduckllr Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: Boise Posts: 2,686 I Ride: The Armageddon bike, Orange Crush, Panagale Tricolor	Big no on the trickle charger.

04-05-2010, 08:16 PM	#31
theduckllr Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: Boise Posts: 2,686 I Ride: The Armageddon bike, Orange Crush, Panagale Tricolor	Just making sure you were paying attention.