BLIZANTHIMUM

so why then do you run tires other than regular pilot powers?

0700

"if you are wanting to improve, don't get the liter bike"

Come on, this statement supposes you can't improve on a literbike.

R1DON

i have an 08 zx10. it is more nimble than any 600 i have ever ridden and has smooth power delivery.

0700

But you must not be "improving"

theduckllr

Clarification: The ZX6 had LOWER lap times, indicating faster laps then the literbikes.

I understand the concept of thinking your bike can't do more, but consider that power is not the limiting factor for your lap times if you are an amature level racer or occasional trackday pilot, I promise you. My first day at Sears Point, I watched an old fat guy in tattered leathers, on a steaming pile of primer grey EX500 HUMILIATE the entire field of intermediate level racers on then new 750s and literbikes. I immediately gained a new understanding of the limits of horsepower and the human bodies ability to circle a track with it. I've done a few track days, (OK, alot) on several different bikes, including motards. My fastest laps have never been made on my most powerful bikes. If you feel tyres are the issue, then do what I did, and go blow your wad on race slicks. I say this because they are a fantastic and yet humbling experience, that will certainly put the zip back into your ZX6R. Plus, the addition of slicks will certainly enable you to increase your corner speed and enjoy the increased safety of additional traction, at a fraction of the cost of a literbike.

Now imagine getting that liter bike, going faster in the straights, but now you have to brake harder in the corners because you will be riding on essentially the same tyres as your 600. Did you suddenly become safer? Now imagine getting passed by a fat guy on a primered EX500, because he's coming for you.
Get whatever bike floats your boat, because its your money. (Actually, its the banks money, but I digress). But don't try to sell us on the idea that you are doing it to be SAFER. Save that arguement for your mother who might not know any better.

stubby

Speed is only one part of the equation. Look at the worlds greatest racers. Notice how much time was spent on small bikes. The small/slow bike will make you fast. Relying upon a motor to make up time doesn't make anyone a better rider but it will expose your weaknesses even more.

Also nobody is saying whether or not you went fast enough to deserve a 1k. Simply throwing out good advice, some of us like seeing others quickly improve, and not end up going backwards.

Track day pace and race pace are 2 different things. I run race rubber as its already on my race bike. Why would I want to spend an extra 300 for a track day? Also the heat becomes a factor while racing, and we try to get everything out of our tires including life.

I use more corner speed than you with less lean angle, race rubber or pilot powers.

You can, but like I said your lap times at most will improve by 2 seconds (from the straights). Your learning curve will drastically slow down. But what would I know anyhow, I'm never at the track. Why do you think I don't track my 1k?

Like I said buy what you want, but if you want to improve stick with what you got.

0700

clueless

stubby

You really have no ###king clue..... The fact that you don't understand what not only I but Andrew said, says enough. No body is saying DONT BUY, we are trying to tell you that you aren't going to be faster on the bigger bike, along with other things like slowing down your learning curve. You did sit there and spout off ###t that made no sense about the track - "My tires and power are limiting me".... BULL###t!!! YOU are limiting yourself.

I don't care though, go buy your 1k, and go park it in the corners so you can look cool on the straights....

Oh, and several guys happen to run more than 1 bike, so convincing them would be rather easy. A famous example of this would be Sofuoglu, he was the WSS champ and tried to race superbike (1000) as well. He went back to only WSS (or 600s) as he wasn't that good on a liter bike.

theduckllr

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All in good fun man.

We get it. You have maxxed out the abilities your 2009 ZX6. Any pointers you can give me? I'm prone to oversteering my bike in the chicanes forcing me to wait too long to get back on the gas.

stubby

Just some more food for thought:

Have you ever noticed how many of the crashed bikes at a track day are 1ks? And mind you 600s have a larger population at the track.

stubby

Slow it down psycho

I would say switch over to a jap bike, but I don't see you ever doing that... adjust rake/trail. That will be $60 please pull forward to the second window.

whitedevil

ok ok ok, time for my

who cares what he can or can not do? He is selling his bike, he obviously has his reasons.

Howard & Stubby make very awesome valid points, but Mr. 0700 thinks he knows what he can or can not do. You made your points, now the ball is in his hands to decide to take the advice and get better with what he has or go bigger faster and harder to prove an accident is waiting to happen.


Nice Bike, Nice Price! Good Luck

theduckllr

[QUOTE=stubby;119575]
I would say switch over to a jap bike, [QUOTE]

I'm waitiing for this 2009 Zx6 to get down into the $5k range so I can rattlecan it primer black and head to the track....

Ming

Gotta love it.

The 09 Kawi is a sick friggin bike!
I'd buy it from you if I had expendable income.
Really. I've wanted this bike since the day it was introduced.
Maybe you will keep it til spring and I may be able to buy it from you?

To continue the drama:
600's are slow! 1000's are slower! you gotta get a 636 to be fast! hahahahahahahahahaha!

Cider

I'd buy it if I could afford it. Cool bike and good price.

I agree with the less-is-more theory (I ride a girls' bike, after all), but I don't think a guy needs an excuse to buy what he wants.

Matt

Give the guy a brake, he's just trying to sell his damn bike! Good luck with the sale man, I'm sure it will make someone a great bike! If I had money to spend I would be all over it

Matt

Muahahahahahahahaha

R1DON

if and when i decide to start running road courses it sure as hell wont be on my 10, i will buy a 600 just for the simple fact that i can stab the throttle a hell of a lot sooner when exiting the corner

micko24

Good luck with the sale man... sweet bike! here's a good bumpity bump for yah.

Turbo2themax

I would be all over this like a Fat kid eating cake if I wasn't getting out the service even thought about it but just could not rationalize it with me getting out! Good luck with the sell 0700 cant believe it still on here for that price!

solo

I SECOND THIS!! HAHA i really would love to buy this bike!!

0700

STUBBY

"Why So Serious?"

Mikey

R1Bran and I actually talked to the rental guy who backed out on you at the last trackday. He still feels really bad for backing out on you, but he had to think about his business and having a bike sit all winter not creating any revenue he said was just too much for him. He is a really nice guy though.

I know if I had the funds I'd be all over this bike. Good luck with the sale on a sweet priced, super nice bike.

0700

Getting talked down to and cursed out has really made me reconsider selling the ZX6R, because I hadn’t put any thought into keeping before. I'll get new tires and ride around all the 1k parked in the corners for another season.

micko24

hmmm it's cooking good. cmon how low can you go hehehe.