cms1172

I was looking at getting new tires this summer, and was doing quite a bit of research, this is what pretty much everyone said.
http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews...oad-attack.php
Has anyone else tried them besides me?
I know that everyone here runs Pilot Powers, but I need a commuter tire too, was looking at the 2CTs. Any feedback?

Exitwounds

PP's aren't a great commuting tire from the stand point that they wear out fast compared to others. They are really sticky, have ferocious grip, heat up quick, etc, but you trade mileage to get that. I have heard of 8K+ miles out of a set which is probably reasonable if you don't ride like a bat out of hell or do track days.

I had a set of Metzlers on my CBR and they were great all around tires. I am not convinced the PP 2ct's are worth it. The dual compound is only on the outer edges of the tire, an area most of us will never use to its full extent. I would probably get regular PP's if I did it again. Nothing wrong with dual compound, just not something I will use to its full extent.

Don't get me wrong, PPs are amazing tires, there are just more economical choice if you're doing a lot of commuting.

Scout16

how were you able to drop 5 grand on a new bike? just wondering

GoSuzGo

I like the Pirelli Corsa III, I had over 9K mi on my last rear tire.

Exitwounds

Part cash and part loan from my credit union. I work a fair amount, make a decent wage and am single. If you budget well, you can actually make your money go a lot farther than you think.

The biggest piece of advice I ever got was be vigilant about your credit score, it affects you in so many ways.

Scout16

i found one on craigslist i might have to try to get a loan for. i want a new kawl too

Exitwounds

PM me the listing.

Hozhead

The BEST tires? That's one of the most loaded questions to ever be asked on an internet forum (I believe it ranks just below "this is my woman, is she hot or what?")

If you're looking for a mileage tire, take the Pilot Power 2CT out of consideration. The center is the standard Pilot Power compound and the edges are softer. They didn't harden up the center at all for added mileage.

Personally, I'm LOVING my Pilot Road 2 (2CT) tires but the rear tire has a taller sidewall than a Pilot Power or other full sport tire so you get less lean angle. The front has the same profile as a Pilot Power though so no loss on that end.

LazyJ

Damnit how many times do I have to say it....If your not ridin Michelin...your just not ridin.........

stubby

Even with a Pilot Road 2 you won't push these tires to the limits in the canyons and you will get the extra mileage. I would go with a regular power up front and a Pilot Road 2 in the rear if you are looking for extra mileage.

Although if you buy a sportbike for commuting, then you bought the wrong bike to begin with.

Cider

I agree--Pilot Roads are great tires.

Tydd

LOL. Guess I'm not ridin then. I run Pirreli Diablo Rosso's on mine. No complaints so far.

stubby

Minus the railroad tracks. Now if you would have had PPs on that never would have happened

Tydd

Oh is that what happen? Those things are super sticky huh? Would have kept the ass end down on the ground?

stubby

You got it, PPs are the sticky icky

Idaho Wolverine

I have ran a set of Metzler M1 Sportec's, Dunlop D208's, Pirelli Dragon SupeCorsa's, Avon SP49/50's, Pilot Powers, a set of PilotPower 2ct's and my current set is the Pirelli Diablo Rosso's.

The powers were good, I got right around 5000 miles out of the rears. The Avon's were a lot like the Pilot Power and got around the same miles, but turn-in a little faster than I like.

Metzlers were good, but only lasted a little under 4000 miles.

SuperCorsa's were GREAT but I got 1,800 miles from them and they were done.

I personaly did not like the D208's but I know a lot of guys liked them.

The Rosso's I have now compare well to the Pilot powers. The Rosso's are a little more neutral on turn-in but I like the stability of them. Grip is simular and I have just over 4000 miles on the rear and looks to have another 1K or more in it.

There are alot of good tires out there. Buy a set and ride.

Now if someone knows what "The best tire" is, maybe they can tell us what the best oil is too.

cms1172

Found this add from CycleGear. How are these?
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...000_cmbo_pkg_G

Exitwounds

I am pretty sure thats what a friend of mine runs on his r6. He likes em, but he doesn't really ride hard, just toodles around more or less. I dunno what kind of mileage you get out of them though, he rides like 1000 miles a year ~_~

Mikey

If your wondering how they feel holler at me at the next bike night/group ride. I've got them on my bike and your more than welcome to run around the block to feel them.

I personally am neutral on these tires. I had them put on in the fall and have a bunch of around town trips and a couple IC runs in them and they still don't seem to hook up as good as my battleaxes did. I am still getting the feeling like my arse is sliding when I accelerate out of tight corners and when I'm screwing around on back raods and try to clutch up the front tire, instead I just get rear wheel spin.

but don't think I'm all jaded on these I really haven't had a lot of time on them to really get a GOOD feel for them, thats why I'm staying neutral.

Also go in and talk to the guys at Cycle Gear, when I bought my set they were having a sale I think it was like $160 bucks for the rear and $20 bucks for the front. I didn't really need a new front tire but for $20 bucks I just couldn't pass it up.

theduckllr

This reminds me of a magazing article from years ago. Titled: "Best tyre?". If you ride on public roads (mostly straight with stop signs) at legal speeds where your average pace is 30-50mph, race tires will not give you better perfomance because you simply won't get them to optimal or useful operating tempature. Rubber is a natural insulator. Soft sticky tires are that way because they are less dense, and thus absorb more heat. Road tires are made of denser rubber that heats up quicker, and thus have a lower optimal heat range suited for 75mph and lower speeds with resulting higher frictional heat gains then the race tire that doesn't work well until subjected to much higher speeds and higher heat absorption. I know that everyone here has put on sticky tires and said: "WOW! These rock!" without much consideration of the significantly different profiles that high performance tires typically offer and the perceived effect on handling. The higher profiles and softer (and thus lighter) rubber in the middle of the tire reduce the centrifigal force that warps a tire and deforms it as you spin it faster. Stiffer sidewalls ensure that the tire thus keeps it's profile as you go faster and thus is more predictable, and "feels" better in a corner. ("Wow! These ROCK!") This is the same reason street tires are not suited for track use. The tire is forced to absorb too much heat and deforms under high speed. The softer sidewall that improves the bump absorbing capabilities needed on the street become a huge detriment at 150mph. This is why ALL tires are SPEED RATED. Buying the PP tire rated for 170mph for a Buell that may never see 100mph, is nonsensical, at best. Most riders will rarely feel a tire slip on the road due to tread compound, and if they do feel any slip, it most often will be attributable to road conditions or improper heating because they aren't in that useful heat range. Anyone who has spent time on dedicated race tires at race speeds knows the importance of proper tire warm up and why it can't ever happen on the street without violating every traffic law we know of. Clever marketing has convinced us that road tires offer so much less grip that you would be foolish to purchase them. Countless magazine tests talk about them spooning on the newest performance tires and having terrific improments (on the track). But if you aren't on the track, you really are wasting your money. In the end, the best tire is entirely dependant upon the conditions of YOUR typical ride, not what Hayden or Insatch need when striving for a lower lap time on a new R1GSXZX1098R thingy, at speeds you will never go. My two pence.

LazyJ

im still "sticking" to the PP....i dont believe everything i read in a magazine. regardless of the tire compound i absolutely love the profile of the tires and YES I can proudly say I'm plenty capable of telling the difference in the handling.

well ###t....im off to cycle gear to buy some shinko's


I forgot to mention that those Pirelli's are the same tire i ran at the track a couple years ago....they were plenty of tire for my ability. Cuz Im no Hayden.

theduckllr

Thanks for making my point, Ricky Racer.

Perceived differneces in handling and actual tire grip are two different subjects.

LazyJ

anytime daddy do good

Tydd

Children!!! Don't make me turn this forum around!!!!

LazyJ

good luck....

theduckllr

Time to update your sig line Lazy. Or put me back on your "ignore list". LoL

LazyJ

ok dad, thanks for letting me know what you think i should be doing...again

Tydd

God damn it you two!!! I swear I will stop this forum and reach back there and ####h slap you both in to last week!!!!

LazyJ

and you think i would care why...........................?

Tydd

You'd have to redo this week.

theduckllr

Sounds as if you and Tish have been spending some serious quality time together. Daddy issues? Again?!?

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LazyJ

yup you nailed it....

Tydd

That's it!!!! Where the hell is my woopin' stick cause I got some woopin' to do.

LazyJ

i could just give you my log in name and password....that is if you wanted to roll me back to next week.....whatever that was suppose to mean...lol

Tydd

Deal. Give them up.

LazyJ

u have a txt msg

Tydd

muhahahaha....All you ####h's are in deep ###t now.

LazyJ

careful i wouldnt want you to ruin my ###tty reputation

Tydd

Oh yeah. Wouldn't want to make it anyworse than it already is....Is that even possible?

LazyJ

well i guess you now have the ability to find out dont you.....