BLIZANTHIMUM

we are doing this for $50. here is some of the benefits and before/after pics.

#1 Corrosion protection. The manifold will live longer as well as look nicer. Whether it is for performance or show, coating an exhaust manifold is valuable to you.
#2 The coating is a thermal barrier, thus keeping heat within the header. There are a number of benefits for this. First, by keeping heat within the header, you're going to accelerate the exhaust gas velocity which reduces back pressure and reduces fuel contamination due to reversion. This is a performance benefit. Second, you'll reduce the surface temperature of the header. If there is a component close to it, it will not see as much heat as it would with an uncoated header. In addition, not as much heat will be radiated into the engine compartment. This reduces the under hood temperature which, again, reduces the temperature of surrounding parts, such as, alternators and starters. It also reduces the amount of heat that can be drawn in through the carburetor/throttle bodies and air box, which is a secondary performance benefit. Not to mention yourself while sitting in traffic on a hot day.

we can do other colors for an additional cost, silver is the standard color.

pm me here or email me at [email protected] to setup an appointment.
thanks for looking, james.

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Jermacide

another option:

http://www.jet-hot.com/headercoatings.html

http://www.customultracoat.com/jethot.html


JET-HOT has many COLOR COATINGS (click here for our color chart) to meet your needs. All colors can withstand temperatures to 1,300ºF.. Along with a great stylistic look these color coatings have exceptional insulating properties. These insulating properties allow for better heat reduction which will help keep things cool under the hood.

This is what red looks like: http://mustangmonthly.automotive.com...photos4-0.html

HaVocX

My Yoshimura headers are high temp'd Black....only cost 8 bucks for the can...But if your going all out why not pay $50

Bump for my homies...

HaVocX

here are some pics of my painted yoshimura headers.... I defntly recomend doing this...its a pure cosmetic thing, but it really adds clean style points...lol.. rattle can high temp header paint..8buck autozone style..

these were taken after my winter super overhaul last night at 4am...

Jermacide

I had my Exhaust "silencer" / Can powder coated with high temp black. It has yet to show any sign of flaking or coming off.....FYI: I also have some standard powdercoat on the pipe and it has held up just fine....with the exception that the combination of heat and exhaust carbons have slightly discolored the blue paint. Granted I have not done the header with the same company but it has been done and is holding up.

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HaVocX

Yeah, My LevelOneRacing slip is came factory powdercoated with a black can but a 'silver' midpipe. i rattle canned the headers and midpipe and the slip one midpipe. It really allowed the bikes lines to "flow" better.
to High Temp painting. I have had no chipping or bad blemishes at all so far either. 4 months old on paint.

BLIZANTHIMUM

this is essentially the same product and service we are providing but for a much cheaper price.
hi-temp paint is still just paint and will not give the insulating qualities and performance gains that our services will provide.

HaVocX

Oh, Powdercoating is a full step and leap beyond rattle cannin some high temp paint on. I actually picked up a oven to start dabbling with my own pieces..

Powdercoating offers far superior protection and looks way better too..So how much for a set of wheels (OEM 2004 R6)? nothing crzy with just one solid color...maybe two is thats possible...rim and spoke color combo??

katnip

Its not just powder coat, its a type of hi temp ceramic powder coat...hence the insulation properties

HaVocX

Thanks, i did not know we were talking about Powdercoating/High Temp Ceramics

m5james

I'd like to get this done while my bike is apart. Have you guys ever actually taken heat readings before and after for concrete proof using one of those laser temp readers or something like that? I've got a dent in the pipe right before it hits the muffler, I'd need to find a way to get that taken out before I do the coating.

BLIZANTHIMUM

no we have not done this but if you are willing to offer your bike up for demonstration we will gladly take you up on it.
we also have a flat black available.

m5james

If you can remove the dent, sand it and finish it so it looks nice before the coating, maybe we can work something out. I've got a laser reader, so I can do a before and after for you in exchange for those like myself who want proof that it works.

BLIZANTHIMUM

send me some pics of the damage and ill see if its within our capabilities.

m5james

Here are some pics I just took. I've tried shoving the end of a hammer in there when the pipes we're still hot, but all I did was oblong the hole where the mufflers mount. It's not deep at all, I'm guessing it needs to be heated w/ a torch, pushed/pulled out, scuffed to get out the deeper scratches, then coated w/ your stuff. I'm having the frame PC'd probably a semi-gloss black, so whatever color black you have would be fine.

STR8UP41908

so if I get a mid pipe have it welded on then have u coated with this stuff is it the same price as just the headers or would it be a little more?

also i seen u have your cat cut out. Where did u get your mid pipe? I found 1 for $100 out of CO is that about the norm for those?

m5james

Damn Chris, is the comma button on your keyboard broken I had to read that shit twice!

STR8UP41908

come on leave me alone....my keyboard skills suck

m5james

LOL...keyboard skills, it's English bro! I'll walk over there and do your typing for you from now on, deal Got food?!

OT for a second, but have you had any luck trying to sell the other bikes?

BLIZANTHIMUM

my mid pipe came with my muffler. $50 is just for the header. midpipes cost a little extra depending on their length and number of pieces.
i would advise against welding your midpipe to your header cause it makes it easier to swap systems and/or replace parts if necessary.

BLIZANTHIMUM

we should be able to buff that out for you pretty easily.

stubby

most slipons come with the midpipe. If they don't you can go on Ebay and get the 06/07 headers and then buy a 06/07 slipon and get the same result for cheaper. You got the 08 right?

m5james

Cool. I figured that coating you guys spray is pretty thick, I'm mostly worried about how to get that dent out as I've had no luck. I'd like the piping done all the way from the headers, stopping at the mufflers, so we'll have to discuss pricing once you see their length. I'll fire up the bike this weekend and read the engine temps at the front/back header pipe for a before/after reading. Is there an expiration date on this pricing? I'm hoping to get Yerby over within a month or so.

STR8UP41908

yep....this is what i was thinking so i can get rid of the cat

http://shop.mjsperformance.com/produ...8&categoryId=9

or

http://shop.mjsperformance.com/produ...7&categoryId=9



but not sure what them mean buy w/exup

stubby

Personally I would stay away from the noname brands. The exup looks like the set valve from the pictures.

m5james

Thread bump!! I'm gonna run the bike and test the temperature of the headers at the each pipe right as it comes out of the head, the collector, and maybe each outlet before it enters the mufflers. Sound good?

So, if I'm going to PC the frame black, but my mufflers are polished aluminum...I'm not sure if I should go w/ the black coating or silver the whole thing? I'm leaning towards silver so they'll somewhat blend in w/ my mufflers

It's a dual muffler bike...opinion from the masses?

Jermacide

black all around......

Jermacide

FYI: all MJS performance does is use factory headers/exhaust systems as the heart of the system and then modify them to be more direct or free flowing....just like they did with the newer R6's.....they basically hacked the giant turd can out of the system.....

stubby

All the more reason not to use them

Jermacide

HEY MAN I dropped almost 12lbs of weight off my bike and added like 4 kagillion HP with their system..! LOL

i've also shaved 22lbs off my fat ass so with the 36lbs in total weight savings thats like....45 minutes off my lap times.....

S H I T! now i have to have my suspension redialed!

BLIZANTHIMUM

personally i would do black on the pipes and headers so that they blend in with the bike frame and would allow the muffs to stand out better.

when taking your temps, be sure to do it while the bike is at a constant temp and record that as well so the conditions can be duplicated when the retest is done.

steven32

so just $50 for everything?

BLIZANTHIMUM

$50 for the header. mid pipes are a little extra.

CBRF2Old

I agree with the black on headers and midpipe. Blend them in to the bike.

Also, might want to record the ambient temperature when taking the readings just in case we actually do get a warming trend some time this year. Also try to shield it from wind. We wouldn't want to skew the data would we?

Actually now that I have reread Bailey's comment, I think that is what he means.

m5james

I was thinking silver because it's the most common piping color, it wouldn't make my mufflers standout as much and black attracts heat. After reading the suggestions for black, I guess I'll do that. Anyone w/ photoshop skills who can black the frame, then do a pic w/ silver pipes and another w/ black pipes for comparison?

Below I have attached a screen shot of the Excel doc I made while taking temps in my garage. Since I have a base temp from the bike sitting in the garage at room temp on it's front and rear stands, no breeze since I left the door closed, so that gives me a starting point. The tester I used has a highest temp setting, so I don't think I can get anymore consistant than letting it just do it's thing. I'm surprised how hot certain areas of the pipes get!! It's not surprise that the left side gets hotter than the right side, it's something to do w/ how the mufflers crossover each other, and it can even be felt when holding my hands over the muffler tips.

Lastly, what is it to have it done from the headers all the way back? I don't exactly have a 4 pipe single header like most bikes. It's kind of pointless for me to take temps at the collector and left/right outlet if I don't have everything coated. Seeing that my exhaust is completely different than most, PM me pricing for the whole thing.

lil_schmitty

You feeling a little light headed now?

steven32

so for the headers, would i have to take them off, or do i just wheel in the bike and take a number?

m5james

Actually. I did open the back door to the backyard and had a fan running so the fumes didn't get pumped into the house. I realize there wasn't a breeze outside, but I was thinking about making sure I got consistant readings just like Bailey wanted.

Making sure this stuff does it's job is just as important to me as it is to Bailey, otherwise if it doesn't work as advertised, I'd have a pretty $50 something dollar paint job that I could have done on my own for $10 like others have w/ simple paint. I've got my fingers crossed, so other than being a ceramic coating, it also probably comes down to how thick it's layed down.

CBRF2Old

Well, after looking at the pic of the bike, I am thinking that all black leading up to the can might make the can look like it is floating in space even if the frame is black. Is the left pipe the rear cylinder? Might explain the higher temps.

m5james

I was thinking the same thing about it looking like it's floating, but is that a good thing or a bad thing?

FYI - of those two exhaust setups laying there, the one on the left is the M4 that I have and the one on the right is the stock setup. If you're looking at the pic of the pipes, they're laying on the ground as if you're standing in front of the bike. The left side of the pipe, even w/ all the crossovers, has the most exhaust pressure when standing at the back of the bike. I would think that the left side of exhaust having a straight shot out the back would run cooler vs the right side that has to make to U-bends before it's allowed to exit, but that's just not the case.