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Old 02-11-2010, 06:25 PM   #1
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Blinkers stay solid? Help?

Hey guys, I got my new undertail kit and I replaced it tonight, now when I turn it on, the lights stay solid instead of blinking? What can cause this?
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:49 PM   #2
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If the undertail is LED based, which I'm assuming it is. It may be an issue with the change in resistance compared to the original bulbs, although that usually just affects the flashing rate.

Or it's just hooked up wrong.

When I wired up a 954 light to my bike, contrary to the instructions that it came with, I had to use the + as the common wire, and run the - wires from the blinkers in order to get it to work.

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Old 02-11-2010, 07:56 PM   #3
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I'm having the same problem. But mine are not leds so I'm thinking it the flasher unit ( 19 yr old bike ). It's on my to fix list.
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Resistance issue. Replacing signals, LEDs specifically, caused irregular blinking. My experience has been increased blinking not solid. Look closely. Is it blinking so fast it looks solid. Ive had that happen. Fixed it with some resistors from Radio Shack
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:07 PM   #5
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could be hooked up to the running lights and not to the blinker itself
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:09 PM   #6
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I spoke with the company that sold it they said I need a resistor.

I was sent a txt image of the resister and the one they used is a 26 ohm. Does it need to be 26 or could I have it a bit more or less, I went to radio shack and they did not have a 26 ohm resister.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:16 PM   #7
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Well it's either a 26 or 16, I have to find out for sure from the guy but it's one of those.
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the difference in ohms correlates to the difference in flashing speed.
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Did you check your Blinker fluid Sounds to me like your all out.
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So then which one should I get in your opinion?
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So then which one should I get in your opinion?
get the amber fluid its more visible than the clear.
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get the amber fluid its more visible than the clear.
I like the glow in the dark variety.
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get the amber fluid its more visible than the clear.
Be sure to get the special LED blinker fluid or it mess every thing up.
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I meant what resister should I get regarding OHM's.
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If you buy Ohm's brand blinker fluid in the size 26 container it should work. The amber bottle works best!
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Alright, I guess I will look on other forums for help regarding this issue.
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Get the 26ohm. I have a blinker resister pack collecting dust, but I don't know what the resistance is off the top of my head.
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I spoke with the company that sold it they said I need a resistor.

I was sent a txt image of the resister and the one they used is a 26 ohm. Does it need to be 26 or could I have it a bit more or less, I went to radio shack and they did not have a 26 ohm resister.
If you cannot locate the exact value that you need, you can add resistors in series to increase value, or in parallel to drop it.
I.e. if you wire four 100 ohm (very common value, is available at Radio Shack) resistors in parallel, you will get a value of 25 ohms, which should not make a noticeable difference in the cycle rate from 26 ohms.
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Get the 26ohm. I have a blinker resister pack collecting dust, but I don't know what the resistance is off the top of my head.
That is the problem I couldn't find a 26.

Should I go for something higher then 26 or lower? In other words which would be safer?
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I spoke with the company that sold it they said I need a resistor.

I was sent a txt image of the resister and the one they used is a 26 ohm. Does it need to be 26 or could I have it a bit more or less, I went to radio shack and they did not have a 26 ohm resister.
im sure that being 1 or 2 ohm''s off wont cause a problem, so i would get a resistor thats as close to the 26 or 16 that you need.

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Old 02-12-2010, 12:15 AM   #21
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I see, thanks for your help guys. I really appreciate it!

Question, anyone know if WalMart would have resistors? I doubt it, but if they do I would rather go get some right now and finish this undertail tonight!
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i dont have blinkers on the 954 because of the led issue, i have tryed all the resisters and all that shit it just dont work. so hand signs it is seems to have fixed the problem
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i dont have blinkers on the 954 because of the led issue, i have tryed all the resisters and all that ###t it just dont work. so hand signs it is seems to have fixed the problem
except they are not leagal agter dusk
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i dont have blinkers on the 954 because of the led issue, i have tryed all the resisters and all that ###t it just dont work. so hand signs it is seems to have fixed the problem
shoot had i of caught this post earlier i could have grabbed whatever you needed from work..
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You should be able to buy one at Lockhart Phillips that plugs in line OR I've actually seen them at Cycle Gear in Boise in the Lighting/Electrics section.

This ain't an uncommon issue.
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Old 02-12-2010, 06:16 AM   #26
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Moto-one also carries them and they are way cheaper than anyone else in town. He has to order them, as he doesn't stock much street bike stuff. But the turn around on his special orders is generally pretty quick.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:29 AM   #27
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they are so cheap from radio shack you could get a whole bunch of different Ohm resistances and still be under 5 bucks. 25 ohm is fine if needed just ad a 1 ohm in line with the 25 and that will work just fine.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:24 AM   #28
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my 954 leds work just fine.
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except they are not leagal agter dusk
Funny, we have had this discussions many times! Find it in the law books buddy!

As for your resistors, whats the haps? did you get them done yet?
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Funny, we have had this discussions many times! Find it in the law books buddy!

As for your resistors, whats the haps? did you get them done yet?
only some states require that blinkers be 8 inches apart, otherwise, they are completely legal in idaho. even incorporated into the tail light, as long as either the front or back can be seen it is legal. Put them in your helmet and they are legal.
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only some states require that blinkers be 8 inches apart, otherwise, they are completely legal in idaho. even incorporated into the tail light, as long as either the front or back can be seen it is legal. Put them in your helmet and they are legal.
Why would it not surprise me that you would answer that? I meant Pimpit saying that hand signals are not legal at dusk. NM, take all the fun away.
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Why would it not surprise me that you would answer that? I meant Pimpit saying that hand signals are not legal at dusk. NM, take all the fun away.
I am thinking somebody needed their hands for something else. whack whack whack. LOL
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:49 PM   #34
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my 954 leds work just fine.
ya well I'm the one who wired them, maybe you could give it a shot. I'm sure he would appreciate it. I don't know ish about LED lights, I ride a 97 GSXR I don't even have blinkers.
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I am thinking somebody needed their hands for something else. whack whack whack. LOL
To flip you off as I pass you? ROFLMAO!
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:59 PM   #36
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ya well I'm the one who wired them, maybe you could give it a shot. I'm sure he would appreciate it. I don't know ish about LED lights, I ride a 97 GSXR I don't even have blinkers.
Calm Down.....LMAO - if someone hooks LED's into the original blinkers and they work, more power to them, usually you have to put some form of resistor or box in also. Or this is old school and uses the signals like HD's have and yea, that sucks! LMAO
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except they are not leagal agter dusk
actually they are i asked bpd down town. and they didnt have a problem with it so idk were u get ur crack from but might wana try a new dealer
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:36 PM   #38
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ya well I'm the one who wired them, maybe you could give it a shot. I'm sure he would appreciate it. I don't know ish about LED lights, I ride a 97 GSXR I don't even have blinkers.
Not Mine. And You ain't even got mirrors.
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Old 02-15-2010, 10:44 PM   #39
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I put the LED lights on my busa and they just blink a little faster HOWEVER upon instaling the wife's LED light on her ninja {Which is finally done thank god} her bike is set up as an electrical circut meaning if the circut is on complete the light just stays on and makes a crazy hummmmm noise. In fixing this you can order a newer flasher that does not require a complete circut or try to rig the rear blinkers with the front ones. Led lights only requre one wire to run since they ground with the rest of the brake light where as actual signals require 2 wire creating a ground. WHen you installed your front LED lights, if you did, you should have completed a circut with those and should be able to get rid of the tails and tap into those wiht the new led for the rear
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Also if you go the auto parts store and look at blinker relays, they have some just for LEDs. If you get the ones just for LEDs (I believe that they say for up to 4 LEDs and some say up to 8 LEDs lights) The thing with these ones is that they are timed relays and not resistance relay. Just a thought. I have done it this way in my RC51 and works great.
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