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Old 04-17-2011, 05:26 PM   #1
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Non-Ethanol fuel

I know some of you prefer running this as opposed to the 90/10.

Grand-Del Petroleum up on Federal, just NW of the Broadway on-ramp is advertising it on their sign. I'll talk to him this week and see whats up.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:37 PM   #2
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Finally, an ethanol-free place nearby (for me)!
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:04 PM   #3
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We should start a sticky thread. STRICTLY MONITORED . A thread that has the Name address and what grades of fuel they offer without ethanol. I feel like I could benefit from that and many others would as well. The moderator would have to delete anything that isnt an address or a non ethanol location its deleted. Only way to have a clean thread to use for reference. Just and idea..

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Old 04-17-2011, 06:35 PM   #4
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http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=ID

Found this after a bit of looking.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:41 PM   #5
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We should start a sticky thread. STRICTLY MONITORED . A thread that has the Name address and what grades of fuel they offer without ethanol. I feel like I could benefit from that and many others would as well. The moderator would have to delete anything that isnt an address or a non ethanol location its deleted. Only way to have a clean thread to use for reference. Just and idea..

I actually started a google map with the ones I know of. All Phillips 66 and Tesoro stations are ethanol I believe.

http://www.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF...c9b6cab8e&z=11
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Old 04-17-2011, 09:29 PM   #6
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Most, if not all Philips 66 are Non Ethanol. I will try to find a resource for this since I'm in the fuel industry. It should take just a few phone calls.
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:50 AM   #7
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Travis, I would like to discuss fuel prices with you and find out what person of Middle Eastern decent is getting rich off me.
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:35 AM   #8
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Sorry man, I will not discuss fuel prices. I don't deal with setting prices nor do I want to even touch on that subject. There are many different factors that play into fuel price.
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Old 04-18-2011, 08:49 AM   #9
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Diesel is refined before Gas correct (meaning it takes less to make a gallon of diesel than gas)? Then why does it cost more?
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:01 AM   #10
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I thought diesel was a residual product of gasoline production. If I am correct once gasoline is refined, then refineries refine whats left into diesel. What is left after they get the diesel is then refined into oils and other products, and so on and so on. I heard some BS about when Katrina took out all of those refineries down south they decided to make gas instead of diesel to keep up with the demand. That is why diesel went up. Don't know if there is any truth to that.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:27 AM   #11
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[QUOTE=Ryan@IdahoSportBikes;171352]All Phillips 66 and Tesoro stations are ethanol I believe.

I know that most of the Phillips 66 are non-ethanol, and I thought I read on a previous post on BRN that Tesoro premium was non-ethanol.

In order to get access to to Gran-Del's fuel you must fill out a credit app and receive a card to use their pumps.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:37 AM   #12
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I'm not directly involved in the refining process so I can't exactly confirm. There is alot of speculation as to what drives gas prices up but alot of it has to do with supply and demand. You also have to factor in transmix refining, water contamination that damages product and has to be filtered and re-refined.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:39 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=DreamMerchant;171406]
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All Phillips 66 and Tesoro stations are ethanol I believe.

I know that most of the Phillips 66 are non-ethanol, and I thought I read on a previous post on BRN that Tesoro premium was non-ethanol.

In order to get access to to Gran-Del's fuel you must fill out a credit app and receive a card to use their pumps.
I don't think so. They are just around the corner from my shop and I buy there all the time. They will sell to the general public but you have to go inside and sign in to use their "house card". Then you pump your fossils and go back in and pay. Slightly inconvenient but the dudes inside are cool and as long as you aren't in a big rush....
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:00 AM   #14
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I don't think so. They are just around the corner from my shop and I buy there all the time. They will sell to the general public but you have to go inside and sign in to use their "house card". Then you pump your fossils and go back in and pay. Slightly inconvenient but the dudes inside are cool and as long as you aren't in a big rush....
Prices there?? And octane levels would be nice too. I run nothing under 91. Just curious compared to a regular station
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:37 AM   #15
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i think it is suply and demand becous in ca ther are not as manny diesel trucks and the price for it is lower than hear in id with allot of diesel drivers.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:14 PM   #16
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Another thing that sucks about gas stations is they don't let you know the ron and mon numbers which if those numbers are further apart from eachother for example, 50-70 you have a high chance of pre-detonation or knocking in your engine even if it is a high octane fuel you're using. The higher octane will help some what because the higher it is the cooler your engine stays, but not much. Ethanol also causes these numbers to drop. I haven't been able to find one station to give me info on this yet.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:23 PM   #17
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The actual stations don't have access to that information. If you want that information you should contact the terminal where the fuel iss supplied from.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:36 PM   #18
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gas in iraq 97Cents . Price per barrel 10 dollars
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:39 PM   #19
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Too bad you can't ship hazerdous materials huh...
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:15 PM   #20
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I don't think so. They are just around the corner from my shop and I buy there all the time. They will sell to the general public but you have to go inside and sign in to use their "house card". Then you pump your fossils and go back in and pay. Slightly inconvenient but the dudes inside are cool and as long as you aren't in a big rush....
OOPS!!
Yer right, Joel....my bad.
I was just thinking about the application they sent me to get my own "gas and go" card.

p.s. did a little detective work (one phone call) and found Tesoro premium IS non-ethanol....out of courtesy for the demand of E-zero requests they get. However this may change as the supplier cannot ship non-E10 fuel to OR or WA. Those poor folk have no choices at all......hello Big Brother!!
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:07 PM   #21
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OOPS!!
Yer right, Joel....my bad.
I was just thinking about the application they sent me to get my own "gas and go" card.

p.s. did a little detective work (one phone call) and found Tesoro premium IS non-ethanol....out of courtesy for the demand of E-zero requests they get. However this may change as the supplier cannot ship non-E10 fuel to OR or WA. Those poor folk have no choices at all......hello Big Brother!!
Get the gas and go card if you can cause they close at 5:00 and you can't just walk in when they're closed.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:47 PM   #22
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Get the gas and go card if you can cause they close at 5:00 and you can't just walk in when they're closed.
So is it like an annual charge, or what? Why would they not sell to anyone with a credit card?
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:16 PM   #23
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So is it like an annual charge, or what? Why would they not sell to anyone with a credit card?
They don't have the card reader pumps. It's really a petroleum distributor and fleet fuel outlet not a regular gas station. I mean they have more than just regular it's just.. Never mind you get the point.
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They don't have the card reader pumps. It's really a petroleum distributor and fleet fuel outlet not a regular gas station. I mean they have more than just regular it's just.. Never mind you get the point.
How does their prices compare
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:53 PM   #25
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How does their prices compare
I haven't bought any in a couple of weeks but they were only a little higher than normal then. The price of this crap goes up so fast I can't keep up.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:25 PM   #26
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I was just wondering if it was any cheaper or if it similar as a regular gas stations
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I was just wondering if it was any cheaper or if it similar as a regular gas stations
It's not cheaper but the difference wasn't that big of a deal. less than a nickel/gal.
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