Beware of GROUP PRIDE

CaptCrash · 07-20-2007, 09:53 AM

OK Boys and Girls time for the little voice reminder:

When riding with a group--don't let your pride get in the way of your safety. Ride your own ride. Go your own pace. If someone is faster than you--let them go. If you're unfamiliar with the road--slow down. If you're new to the bike--relax and learn.

Personally I am like a dog. I won't run from a group BUT if someone in the group runs--I'LL CHASE. It's a bad habit I still have trouble with and I've been riding street for 26 years.

It's fun to ride with a group. I personally don't like riding 'in formation' and all that sort of thing. I just like to run the bike. I still feel trepidation when I'm with a group, for two reasons:

1. Fear I'll chase the fast guys and things will get stupid fast and someone will get hurt.
2. Someone will chase me while I'm going stupid fast and hurt themselves.

We can't be responible for other's actions, only for our own. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

07-20-2007, 10:13 AM

FOR THE REMINDERS..

I would like to add to this also.. when in groups.. this is not the time to "SHOW OFF!" No highchairs.. wheelies.. stunting etc.... your actions can be accident waiting to happen.. when you slip and

up and take out the pack behind you or to the side of you.

Wear your gear.. think before you do!!!!! There have been way to many deaths this year..

Hozhead · 07-20-2007, 10:22 AM

Stickied for the benefit of all.

celeste · 07-20-2007, 11:16 AM

This story came out recently and is somewhat related:

U.S. 95 in Idaho is one of America's deadliest -- America's deadliest drives aren't big highways. They're small roads. In 2005, 61% of those killed while driving died on rural, two-lane byways, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office.

http://www.forbes.com/2007/07/12/roa...adlyroads.html

Wunder · 07-20-2007, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptCrash

OK Boys and Girls time for the little voice reminder:

When riding with a group--don't let your pride get in the way of your safety. Ride your own ride. Go your own pace. If someone is faster than you--let them go. If you're unfamiliar with the road--slow down. If you're new to the bike--relax and learn.

Personally I am like a dog. I won't run from a group BUT if someone in the group runs--I'LL CHASE. It's a bad habit I still have trouble with and I've been riding street for 26 years.

It's fun to ride with a group. I personally don't like riding 'in formation' and all that sort of thing. I just like to run the bike. I still feel trepidation when I'm with a group, for two reasons:

1. Fear I'll chase the fast guys and things will get stupid fast and someone will get hurt.
2. Someone will chase me while I'm going stupid fast and hurt themselves.

We can't be responible for other's actions, only for our own. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

I had this problem when i had my R6, but i don't know how i will be with the new R1, i will probably be the same way, but with all these deaths i'm gettin a little more cautious so i've noticed that i'm going slower and paying more attention to the other drivers, like this morning some

almost hit me, he didn't even look in his mirrors to see if anybody was in the other lane he just came right over as if he owned the road.

svbmudssa · 07-20-2007, 02:22 PM

My three safety rules..

1. It's not a race, it's a ride. You can't win because there is no prize.
2. It's your ride,.. not mine or the faster guy behind you (and me)
3. If you are feeling pressured.... slow down,... if you are feeling out of whack SLOW DOWN ,..If you don't want to go as fast as the lead group don't.

Proeve · 07-20-2007, 02:26 PM

07-20-2007, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svbmudssa

My three safety rules..

1. It's not a race, it's a ride. You can't win because there is no prize.
2. It's your ride,.. not mine or the faster guy behind you (and me)
3. If you are feeling pressured.... slow down,... if you are feeling out of whack SLOW DOWN ,..If you don't want to go as fast as the lead group don't.

AWESOME!! That is well said.. personally I like the back.. of the group.. of course.. I am along for the ride.... i am awful about looking around and just taking it all in..with my Ipod going loud..

busa · 07-20-2007, 02:43 PM

yes use you own pace, pressure is really easy to give into, live to ride another day!

micko24 · 07-20-2007, 03:22 PM

Well said ladies and gents. Hopefully all of us can take this message in and swallow our pride when where out there riding esp with groups.

2wheelsdown · 07-20-2007, 04:15 PM

You all hit the nail on the head. I like to ride a lot. I like the group rides alot to. I like to be safe and see everyone after the rides. So all be safe and slow the

down and lets have many more group rides with the friends you like. Rather ride with you all then go to a funeral.

flyman27 · 07-20-2007, 06:34 PM

I've spent the afternoon doing a lot of research on motorcycle crash statistics. Interesting stuff. Highest fatality by age group 20-29. Age group withthe greatest rise in fatalities 40-49. Group with the most alchohol involved 40-49. Area where deaths are on the rise:rural roads Engine size inviolved with the most fatalities 600-900cc.

All the deaths and accidents lately have proven these stat's.

Oh yeah. Helmets reduced brain injury rates by 67% and deaths by 37%. Other gear reduced fatalities by 9%.

I've ridden with almost all the posters so far here and feel like even though we get out and have some fun this group rides responsibly. It's the guys that dont post, the squids we see everyday in thier shorts and flip flops, etc. reminds me of the guy who created his own drive thru window at the taco bell (thanks Rhonda!)

Anyway I'm just as frustrated by all this as everyone else. Like it's been said. We all have to decide what we are going to do that day when we get on the bike. Its fun to get out, burn some curves and goof around but it only takes a split second mistake to ruin lives. If you are a lurker who stunts, races, is a "squid" or anything else like that take a minute and step up and be a man. Ask yourself "is what I'm doing going to hurt others" ie the crowd on the side of the road or your passenger. When EMS shovels you up off the road, do you have enough life/health insurance so you or your family doesnt end up homeless and destitute?

It up to us to take care of our friends and try to help others. Thats what I'm going to do.

Oh yeah one more stat. The leading cause of motorcycle crashes was impacting a car making a left turn when the motorcycle was going straight. Just like that poor guy and gal on Hwy 21.

Be safe out there.

Hozhead · 07-20-2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyman27

If you are a lurker who stunts, races, is a "squid" or anything else like that

Point of clarification:
Street Racing is WAY different from actual, sanctioned Road Racing and Drag Racing. Sanctioned racing is WAY cool and is the safest place to be on a bike!

flyman27 · 07-20-2007, 06:45 PM

Lol I agree. No old ladies turning left in front of you!

fullsailbiker · 07-20-2007, 10:23 PM

I'm starting to think you guys are OK.

CBR King · 07-20-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullsailbiker

I'm starting to think you guys are OK.

keep hanging out you might change your mind

fullsailbiker · 07-20-2007, 10:30 PM

Well.........I think I like SOME of you guys.

CBR King · 07-20-2007, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullsailbiker

Well.........I think I like SOME of you guys.

was that a shot at me lol

07-31-2007, 04:22 PM

I know that it is only Tuesday..

BE CAREFUL... it seems that we are losing a fellow rider once a week... let's start a new trend.. the rest of the summer no more deaths!!!

CBR King · 07-31-2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gixxer-Mom

I know that it is only Tuesday..

BE CAREFUL... it seems that we are losing a fellow rider once a week... let's start a new trend.. the rest of the summer no more deaths!!!

The Pedal-er · 07-31-2007, 06:54 PM

BE CAREFUL... it seems that we are losing a fellow rider once a week... let's start a new trend.. the rest of the summer no more deaths!!!
[/quote]

amen

theduckllr · 09-04-2007, 10:10 PM

brianw21 · 11-05-2007, 01:57 PM

Maybe I just have a bad memory, or bad survival reactions. I just can't push it very hard on the street. On a track I can make several laps and my brain shuts off the second guessing meter.

On the street I just can't get past a couple of loose turns and let myself really feel free. Hence the second guessing. Maybe a ride up bogus everynight for a week would let me learn the route. Or snowboarding. But I just can't bring myself to follow these guys into all the blind decreasing radius turns.

07-20-2007, 09:53 AM	#1
CaptCrash Senior Member Joined: May 2007 Posts: 716	Beware of GROUP PRIDE OK Boys and Girls time for the little voice reminder: When riding with a group--don't let your pride get in the way of your safety. Ride your own ride. Go your own pace. If someone is faster than you--let them go. If you're unfamiliar with the road--*slow down. If you're new to the bike--relax and learn*. Personally I am like a dog. I won't run from a group BUT if someone in the group runs--I'LL CHASE. It's a bad habit I still have trouble with and I've been riding street for 26 years. It's fun to ride with a group. I personally don't like riding 'in formation' and all that sort of thing. I just like to run the bike. I still feel trepidation when I'm with a group, for two reasons: 1. Fear I'll chase the fast guys and things will get stupid fast and someone will get hurt. 2. Someone will chase me while I'm going stupid fast and hurt themselves. We can't be responible for other's actions, only for our own. PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

07-20-2007, 10:13 AM	#2
Gixxer-Mom Guest Joined: Posts: n/a	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE FOR THE REMINDERS.. I would like to add to this also.. when in groups.. this is not the time to "SHOW OFF!" No highchairs.. wheelies.. stunting etc.... your actions can be accident waiting to happen.. when you slip and up and take out the pack behind you or to the side of you. Wear your gear.. think before you do!!!!! There have been way to many deaths this year..

07-20-2007, 10:22 AM	#3
Hozhead Joined: Feb 2006 From: Price, UT Posts: 6,810 I Ride: Husqvarna SM610	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE Stickied for the benefit of all.

07-20-2007, 11:16 AM	#4
celeste Senior Member Joined: Aug 2006 From: here Posts: 175	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE This story came out recently and is somewhat related: U.S. 95 in Idaho is one of America's deadliest -- America's deadliest drives aren't big highways. They're small roads. In 2005, 61% of those killed while driving died on rural, two-lane byways, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office. http://www.forbes.com/2007/07/12/roa...adlyroads.html

07-20-2007, 02:22 PM	#6
svbmudssa Senior Member Joined: Mar 2006 From: Boise Posts: 1,230 I Ride: 02' SVS 88' GSXR 750 Slingshot	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE My three safety rules.. 1. It's not a race, it's a ride. You can't win because there is no prize. 2. It's your ride,.. not mine or the faster guy behind you (and me) 3. If you are feeling pressured.... slow down,... if you are feeling out of whack SLOW DOWN ,..If you don't want to go as fast as the lead group don't.

07-20-2007, 02:26 PM	#7
Proeve Senior Member Joined: May 2006 From: El'Nampa Posts: 2,891 I Ride: Some thing that goes Vroom Vroom	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE

07-20-2007, 02:43 PM	#9
busa Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 672	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE yes use you own pace, pressure is really easy to give into, live to ride another day!

07-20-2007, 03:22 PM	#10
micko24 Senior Member Joined: Jul 2007 From: boise Posts: 1,569	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE Well said ladies and gents. Hopefully all of us can take this message in and swallow our pride when where out there riding esp with groups.

07-20-2007, 04:15 PM	#11
2wheelsdown Senior Member Joined: May 2007 From: K-Town Posts: 3,542 I Ride: kawasaki ZX-14, Suzuki Eiger, Yamaha Bruin, and a Artic Cat 250.	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE You all hit the nail on the head. I like to ride a lot. I like the group rides alot to. I like to be safe and see everyone after the rides. So all be safe and slow the down and lets have many more group rides with the friends you like. Rather ride with you all then go to a funeral.

07-20-2007, 06:34 PM	#12
flyman27 Junior Member Joined: May 2007 Posts: 27	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE I've spent the afternoon doing a lot of research on motorcycle crash statistics. Interesting stuff. Highest fatality by age group 20-29. Age group withthe greatest rise in fatalities 40-49. Group with the most alchohol involved 40-49. Area where deaths are on the rise:rural roads Engine size inviolved with the most fatalities 600-900cc. All the deaths and accidents lately have proven these stat's. Oh yeah. Helmets reduced brain injury rates by 67% and deaths by 37%. Other gear reduced fatalities by 9%. I've ridden with almost all the posters so far here and feel like even though we get out and have some fun this group rides responsibly. It's the guys that dont post, the squids we see everyday in thier shorts and flip flops, etc. reminds me of the guy who created his own drive thru window at the taco bell (thanks Rhonda!) Anyway I'm just as frustrated by all this as everyone else. Like it's been said. We all have to decide what we are going to do that day when we get on the bike. Its fun to get out, burn some curves and goof around but it only takes a split second mistake to ruin lives. If you are a lurker who stunts, races, is a "squid" or anything else like that take a minute and step up and be a man. Ask yourself "is what I'm doing going to hurt others" ie the crowd on the side of the road or your passenger. When EMS shovels you up off the road, do you have enough life/health insurance so you or your family doesnt end up homeless and destitute? It up to us to take care of our friends and try to help others. Thats what I'm going to do. Oh yeah one more stat. The leading cause of motorcycle crashes was impacting a car making a left turn when the motorcycle was going straight. Just like that poor guy and gal on Hwy 21. Be safe out there.

07-20-2007, 06:45 PM	#14
flyman27 Junior Member Joined: May 2007 Posts: 27	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE Lol I agree. No old ladies turning left in front of you!

07-20-2007, 10:23 PM	#15
fullsailbiker Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: Nampa Posts: 477 I Ride: K5 SV650S	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE I'm starting to think you guys are OK.

07-20-2007, 10:30 PM	#17
fullsailbiker Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: Nampa Posts: 477 I Ride: K5 SV650S	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE Well.........I think I like SOME of you guys.

07-31-2007, 04:22 PM	#19
Gixxer-Mom Guest Joined: Posts: n/a	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE I know that it is only Tuesday.. BE CAREFUL... it seems that we are losing a fellow rider once a week... let's start a new trend.. the rest of the summer no more deaths!!!

07-31-2007, 06:54 PM	#21
The Pedal-er Senior Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 120	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE BE CAREFUL... it seems that we are losing a fellow rider once a week... let's start a new trend.. the rest of the summer no more deaths!!! [/quote] amen

09-04-2007, 10:10 PM	#22
theduckllr Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: Boise Posts: 2,686 I Ride: The Armageddon bike, Orange Crush, Panagale Tricolor	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE

11-05-2007, 01:57 PM	#23
brianw21 Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 40	Re: Beware of GROUP PRIDE Maybe I just have a bad memory, or bad survival reactions. I just can't push it very hard on the street. On a track I can make several laps and my brain shuts off the second guessing meter. On the street I just can't get past a couple of loose turns and let myself really feel free. Hence the second guessing. Maybe a ride up bogus everynight for a week would let me learn the route. Or snowboarding. But I just can't bring myself to follow these guys into all the blind decreasing radius turns.

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