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Old 01-08-2009, 09:58 PM   #1
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Hawk Helmets???

Nevermind! Took me quite a while to find anything on it but apparently the stuff the shell is made of is really weak and is more than likely to crack in half like an egg.

Soooo not going with the cheap/cool bucket by Hawk. Haha
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Old 01-09-2009, 03:14 PM   #2
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

go with an Arai...THEY are the best...and right now you can find them for $450...How much is your head worth...
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Old 01-09-2009, 04:02 PM   #3
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

Come on now lynn, The best? So your saying that a Shoei is not a good helmet I paid 450 for my shoei. lol
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:02 PM   #4
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

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Come on now lynn, The best? So your saying that a Shoei is not a good helmet I paid 450 for my shoei. lol
So that's not You in the picture on Your Siggy
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

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go with an Arai...THEY are the best...and right now you can find them for $450...How much is your head worth...
the arai rx7 lids are legit.
but if ya want the best, look up shark rsr2.
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:42 PM   #6
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

You can get an excelent helmet without paying $400-600, I'm sorry but that old questions of "how much is your head worth" is a marketing tactic. My head is worth more to me than any helmet I have seen but that doesn't mean I have to blow all my cash on a Name. This is not just my opinion, Motorcyclist did a big test a few years back and it showed how some of the cheaper helmets delivered less shock to your brain than some of the high end snell helmets.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html

"The DOT helmets we had were all plastic-shelled, and none cost more than $100. How did they do? They kicked butt. In what must be considered a head-impact Cinderella story, the DOT-only helmets from Z1R delivered less average G force to the headform through all the impacts than any others in the test.

And they still excelled in the big-hit, 150-joule impact&151a blast 66 percent harder than any actual DOT test for a medium-sized helmet........"
Don't get me wrong, the Shoei and Arai are way cool but it looks like the original poster is looking for a good inexpensive helmet and the first suggestion was Arai

In attempt to stay on topic...lol I don't honestly know anything about Hawk Helmets and my concern would be if you can get replacement visors and fit. There are a ton of good brand name helmets for $150-200 that work really well and test just as well ie. Scorpion, HJC, KBC, etc.

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Old 01-10-2009, 03:05 PM   #7
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

?WTF? is an Arai TRACKER (WTF? I had to google that model and it sold for 179, How old is that)...

I wonder why this independant study didnt rate the any of the top Shoei X-11 RF1000 or any of the better Arai's...Throughout this article they kept saying like the Japense Shoei or Arai, but tested NONE...

Makes me wonder who wrote it?

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Old 01-10-2009, 03:08 PM   #8
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

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You can get an excelent helmet without paying $400-600, I'm sorry but that old questions of "how much is your head worth" is a marketing tactic. My head is worth more to me than any helmet I have seen but that doesn't mean I have to blow all my cash on a Name.

Exactly my thoughts. Just go by the ratings on a helmet. You can get a very nice HJC or AFX that is DOT, Snell, and ECE approved for just over $100. If they can pass those rating systems I think they'll protect my dome well enough. Sure, the expensive helmets are lighter and maybe more aerodynamic, etc. but unless you are a professional racer or trying to set a land speed record those are nothing anyone needs to worry about when considering a helmet.

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Old 01-10-2009, 03:37 PM   #9
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

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?WTF? is an Arai TRACKER (WTF? I had to google that model and it sold for 179, How old is that)...

I wonder why this independant study didnt rate the any of the top Shoei X-11 RF1000 or any of the better Arai's...Throughout this article they kept saying like the Japense Shoei or Arai, but tested NONE...

Makes me wonder who wrote it?

It was run in mororcyclist magazine and created quite a stur. Model names change from country to country too so maybe it was done in the UK or something, I haven't read it in a while. I don't know one kenetic scientist from Adom but there is a list at the bottom of the page. My guess is none of them were presantly working for Snell because they were pi$$ed. Here's the names of the contributers, there's a bunch.
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Here are a few of the people who helped with our research, or who have expressed their agreement with our testing methods and our conclusions—it's pretty much a who's who of eminent head-injury scientists around the world:

Dr. Bryan Chinn, Editor in Chief, UN/ECE COST 327 Final Report.

Dr. Jim Newman, former Snell Foundation director, and highly respected head-injury scientist. Dr. Newman is an actual rocket scientist, has been inducted into the International Health and Safety Hall of Fame, and holds several helmet patents.

Dr. Terry Smith, of Dynamic Research Incorporated, another internationally respected motorcycle- and automobile-accident researcher and head-protection scientist.

Andrew Mellor, of the FIA Institute, a renowned helmet-design scientist and originator of the FIA Super Helmet specification for Formula 1 drivers.

Dave Thom, of Collision and Injury Dynamics, an enthusiastic rider and eminent motorcycle-accident researcher and scientist. He's worked with us for many years trying to prevent accidents, improve helmets and save lives.

And Professor Emeritus Harry Hurt, of the Head Protection Research Laboratory Professor Hurt ran the HPRL head-injury lab at the University of Southern California for many years. And the Hurt Report he helmed is still one of the most important, most credible studies of motorcycle accidents the world has ever seen
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:17 PM   #10
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

Come on now Slider of course the Shoei is an awesome helmet...Just wondering Y your not wearing it in your photo signature...Haha...

I have had both the X-11 and RF1000 and they are great...I decided to try an ARAI (what I used to use while in riding in the dirt) and couldnt belive the difference in fit and internal sound...Arai was way quieter especially the wind noise...

Of course the contributors were Euro - otherwise in the article they wouldnt compare all the facts with names like Arai and Shoei, and not test them...

Yeah, paying for a helmet is a pain...They cost so damn much...I am just saying get the highest quality one you can afford...HJC, KBC make great helmets...I would just stay home a couple weekends and not go out and save that extra 200 bones for an Arai...It's just my preference...

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Old 01-10-2009, 04:53 PM   #11
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

Well I know HJC is a good brand and the reviews are good on all of them. I have the gear picked out of what I will buy, just not going to purchase yet.

Going to get this:
Pants http://www.newenough.com/protective_...cle_pants.html
Jacket http://www.newenough.com/protective_...le_jacket.html
Helmet http://www.newenough.com/helmets_eye...le_helmet.html
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:15 PM   #12
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

FYI, Carls has those very same helmets for $89.00 and no shipping.



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Well I know HJC is a good brand and the reviews are good on all of them. I have the gear picked out of what I will buy, just not going to purchase yet.

Going to get this:
Pants http://www.newenough.com/protective_...cle_pants.html
Jacket http://www.newenough.com/protective_...le_jacket.html
Helmet http://www.newenough.com/helmets_eye...le_helmet.html
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:49 PM   #13
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Re: Hawk Helmets???

These guys do a nice objective review. They have reviews on tons of helmets with lots of details.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motor...met/hjc/cs-r1/
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