shadow d hedgehog

OK, I plan to find the papers you refer to and read them. One can always learn more...I just would have thought it was in the download section, silly me.

But, in the mean time, look at this article. Kinda explains the differences between track and street tires. Not just different compounds, but different construction methods and different temperature ranges. There is enough there for a scientist to toss out the summation that street tires will react the same way as track tires in regards to how they respond to heat.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires...res/index.html

CBRF2Old

This is a good thread. Thanks for starting it with a good post WD. Let's not let it get out of hand.
I know nothing of high performance track tires and I was under the misconception that new street tires (although I haven't seen one of these in a few years) needed to be "cleaned". My advice on new tires would be to be careful for the first few miles until you have adjusted to the behavior of the new tire until it is comfortable.
While checking out the link on this, I ran across an article from Sport Rider on what might be a more important aspect to a lot of us. http://www.sportrider.com/features/1...ace/index.html
I like this mag and need to reup my subscription. But my Motorcycle Classics sub takes precedence.

whitedevil

Shadow, I am not going to argue this, I do not spend my time looking for things meaningful to help others to have you argue your opinion.

As for the differences in the tires, how many corners have you, YES YOU taken at over 100MPH? Ok then enough. I thought this was a good article that was informative to our local riders.

If you ride from your house past the long straight after the bridge on hwy 21 to do the Idaho City run, your tires are going to be plenty warm enough to have some fun.


Do with it what you will at this point.

Karl, Thank you for that read, I will actually go back and read the article now.

BLIZANTHIMUM

as far as intentionally warming up your tires for a street ride seems like a waste of time and energy to me. cause by the time you get to an area where you can get a decent lean angle you already have good heat in your tires just from your normal riding ways to get there. so braking/accelerating hard, weaving, holding a lighter to your tire or whatever you feel you need to do is already done by normal riding.

shadow d hedgehog

WD, I am not arguing with you at all, or that the info in the article is wrong. I in fact believe it to be true. I was merely trying to have a conversation in regards to if the info was applicable to street tires on the streets. I see enough data to show a significant difference between street and race tires and that a tire is not just a tire. I wonder how they react different and how to apply that difference. Since I am not done reading Twist of the Wrist, I will reserve a conclusion till then.

stubby

You would heat them the same way. Technically the only proper way to heat a race tire is with tire warmers. For the street tire or a sport touring tire the same thing applies to heating the tire.

stubby

Also if you ever make it to a track day - they will go over this in the rider meeting in the morning about properly heating your tires up. They will also say don't be the guy that wads your bike. Then again there are several variables that will also work for you or against you in regards to tire choice, air pressure, track temp, ambient temp, suspension settings, etc but in the end it won't make a difference if you are on touring tires, street/sport tires or race tires you will build the heat in the tires the same way.

whitedevil

All of that is very important information, but unfortunately, NONE of it means squat if you CAN’T RIDE!!!

stubby

Then STFU, get on your bike and ride!

whitedevil

Something like that! All talk no action! LOL

R1DON

"scrubbing" in new tires is exactly that, getting rid of the residue from the molds. every new set of tires i get get a good workout to idaho city/ lowman shortly after install. quite a few guys have commented when i show up on a ride with tires that still have the nubs on them. bailey has a good point as well, the travel time to the ride will warm up your tires for you (until you sit in the parking lot for 30 minutes to an hour waiting for stragglers. and sonic, quit trying to read into the article and just read it at face value. more time on the edge of a tire and you will appreciate and understand why you should clean off and warm up your tires.