Vegasrider

For those who think jeans provides sufficient protection while riding, think again before you throw your leg over your bike on your next ride. Ouch!

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ally-bad-idea/

RedStar

no way!

Back Of The Pack

A quote from the article.

"Will I keep riding in jeans? Absolutely. If I’m going to live life on a bike, I’m going to live that life. Will I ride in full gear a little more often? I’m hoping the Roadcrafter will help with that. But, there’s no substitute for turning up at a restaurant or a meeting or whatever in the same clothes I can wear inside. It’s about finding the balance between the two. Jacket and jeans when I need to look good immediately, Roadcrafter when I have a place to stash my stuff."

Bluesrider1

Seriously VR....yer coming across as sounding kinda preachy here, again, IMO.

Motorcycle riding has a learning curve....always has, always will.

Reminds of a quote:

"Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous.
It is, however, extremely unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence, and stupidity."

Stop looking like you're just spitting into the wind, ride your own ride in the gear you choose, and leave the rest of 'em to figure it out for themselves.

It is as it always has been, and always will be.

ShotGunBetty

IMO....His injuries look like more than 30 mph injuries with no other happenings like hitting an object or getting hit.....leather would have helped only to avoid rash and maybe the puncture ...depending on quality of the leather.... He would still have all the broken bones and bruises... Another thing, leather isn't made to "save" you.... As much as it gets brought up now if you are riding at high speeds or in traffic .... You can still DIE if shit goes bad. Leather will help avoid increased injuries in some accidents true ... But yes I feel it is an inconvienence for daily commute/riding... Moral is do what you want...know the risks, accept the consequences and ride.... This guy wrote his story very well ... Not preaching to anyone about gear really just providing his story... Good article VR, but try not to get caught up in the preaching about gear thing again. Does anyone REALLY think jeans are sufficient protection? Most likely NO! But we accept that risk when we ride knowing that.

ShotGunBetty

cult67

Hmmm, no one referred to him as preachy here? http://www.fz6-forum.com/forum/what-...ink-again.html

Bluesrider1

............AGAIN!!!!!

redi2ride

thank you for the warning. its the same thing the guys in the stars course told me. our bodies dont hold up as well as our imaginations like to believe.

ShotGunBetty

Well. I guess when you add the words "ass slapping" to any comment, it can remove any of perception of preachy undertones. Bwahaha.. note too self when someone thinks I am being bitchy on here from now on...ass slapping is getting posted!!!

Seriously though that other forum started to go into questions I also have...RIDING JEANS! I have a pair of double layer speed and strength men's reinforced jeans they are uncomfortable....do they work? Anyone know? I went down in jeans and thankfully my helmet and jacket hit the ground first and longest so .... I had minor road rash...and it is horrible everything sticks to it...it would suck to have that road rash in more places!

So I would like to see if we have more people on here that have the "riding jeans" and what everyone thinks about them....worth the money? Rip off? Comparable to cheap leather? Should I just wear chaps....with an ass?? Do they even make those?

If this discussion has previously taken place ...please point me to that thread....thank you!

Gem STate ST

Believe Chad has the riding jeans.I am partial to the Goretex overpants.They come off pretty quick,keep the heat from the bike off you and provide some a** cushion.

ShotGunBetty

Keep the heat from the bike off you?? That would be nice in the summer!...I am usually melting in my jacket and lid already....then the radiating heat off the bike makes it feel like my legs are on fire too ....so I wouldn't think to add another layer! You ride with them in summer? And it is still better than just jeans?

knobbyfeet

A friend of mine is a paramedic who rides and he also goes out of his way to preach to every squid that he meets. At stop lights, in front of stores, etc etc.

He says that if I have seen what he see's on a weekly basis every summer, I would preach to everyone too. I guess he is just sick of scooping up body parts all the time.

With that said, leather isn't enough. Gotta have hard padding in chest, back, shoulders and knees. And who wears all of that on every ride?

Some gear is better than nothing.

Vegasrider

I'm not preaching, I know there are a lot of riders who think that jeans provides an appropriate form of protection, and I just posted this and I thought it could be useful and serve some purpose.

Obviously his injuries could have been prevented or minimized by wearing proper riding gear. I have said before, it's your body, you can do whatever you want. But I disagree, people do not have to figure out for themselves, sometimes people just need something to trigger their lite bulb.

Great thing about leather, it performs great in a slide and it doesn't melt due to friction. Even I would agree riding in full leathers on every ride is not necessary but there are plenty of overpants that could provide better protection than just ordinary jeans.

And riding in the summer with gear, I truly believe in order to due so, you have to resort to going with mesh. Not gong to hold up as well, but it's essential to get that air flow so it can cool your body. A lot of riders think that riding in a tshirt and jeans stay cooler riding during the hot summers but when it fact, it's wearing gear that provides air flow for a rider will stay cooler. Your objective is to sweat so that the air cools you down as it hits your body. Similar to getting out of a swimming pool and your're all wet and that breeze hits your body. Kind of refreshing, versus laying out in the sun next to the pool soakin up the rays, you're hot until you get wet.

Gem STate ST

Yeah I ride with them in the summer.They act as an insulator to keep the heat away.Of all the pics posted of me on here there is not a one without the textile or my leathers.Two major getoffs in the last two years without a scratch.Broken bones yes but no stitches or bandaids.

Bluesrider1

Once more, and PLEEZE read slowly:

Jeans provide GREAT protection for riding...leather provides GREAT protection for riding...padding provides GREAT protection for riding........

The pics showed some guy who CRASHED!!!!

Riding is riding....crashing is crashing, the point I'm am TRYING to make is that there are different dynamics and attitudes involved.
When the garbage truck makes a left turn in front of a rider, when a drunk cager crosses the center line in front of a rider, when a cager is texting and doesn't see a rider stopped at the red light in front of them......that is a CRASH!!!

Skill and experience and judgement and technique and luck will save yer hide in those situations, it's not going to be posting some horror story crash article on an internet forum, I don't care how many forums ya wanna waste your time to put it on.
And it's not going to matter what or how you try to wrap your hide in, motorcycling has it's risks, it has it's learning curve (again!), and the internet will never replace common sense and knowing your limitations when riding and your OWN ability and skill to keep your butt out of trouble.

Once again......ride your own ride, dress the way you want to dress, and please try and realize that there is a reason that the shallow end of the gene pool seems so crowded sometimes, and, just maybe, you shouldn't try to fix it.
Just ride on!

"Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous.
It is, however, extremely unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence, and stupidity."

Get it?
Got it?
Good!

My shadow disappears.

ConradM

Bluesrider, it sounds like you're trying to down play the effectiveness of the Internet. I wouldn't be anywhere near the rider I am without all the online resources and I probably wouldn't be as cautious without reading about other peoples mistakes.

Maybe you want to rely on your own knowledge but crash stories and videos are great for keeping riders in check.

lil_schmitty

Please don't quote this but I agree with VR.

Bluesrider1

Ummmmmmm, yeah, you've been on this site for almost 10 months and have posted almost 1600 times?
1600 posts in 295 days, averaging over 5 posts per day?

I see your point.

But the point I was trying to make is that the skills and experience I am referring to are gained by riding, and by riding a lot, and riding with others that I can learn from, and riding in the STARS classes, including the advanced riders class, and by endurance roadracing experience.

But....whatever.....that's just what works for me.

I'm just sayin'!

It is the internet after all!!!

ConradM

You think 1600 posts in 10 months is a lot in the age of the Internet?


I always hear people preaching about riding a lot and getting more seat time. But it does more harm than good if you don't have a basis to learn technique from. Be it track schools, online resources or instructional Dvds.

ShotGunBetty

Okay..I know your trying to help but that statement "I know there are a lot of riders who think that jeans provide an appropriate form of protection..." Concerns me.... I really do not know any riders personally who think jeans are effective protection in a crash.... I do think people are generally aware that in a crash jeans will shred....I guess I could be wrong..


.... And I read slowly and I got: gear is not "riding gear" for riding protection....it is crashing gear for crashing protection.... Lol ...but I could be way off on my s l o w interpretation.. I also agree with your skills and experience statement ....if I had enough skills and experience I would not have utilized my crash gear ....

Ah.... Busted and forever quoted.... Muahaha!


Anyways.... Anymore info on "riding/crashing" jeans made for motorcycle riding individuals...

CaptCrash

Jeans are better than shorts. Dedicated riding pants are better than jeans. Leather with impact armor is best of all. The rest? Is a calculation. Toady I went for a ride so I wore dedicated pants. Last week when I rode to work? Went with carharts. Riding is a calculated risk.

There is no "one true path" that guarantees safety. The dude in pictures would have the exact same ass injuries if he had been wearing what many believe is optimum riding gear: chaps.

Vegasrider

I agree Blues, and most seasoned riders are aware of the tear and abrasian strength of jeans but there are always a lot of new riders on this forum who may not. Just reinforcing it with the article along with the pictures for the newbies, they have hope.

The old saying, dress for the crash, not the ride. But there are others who dress for the ride, and not for the crash..

It's interesting that the very same topic on two different forums can generate different views. Fascinating.

DB Cooper

redi2ride

I had no idea about the crash vs jeans thing until this summer out at BOP . The guys doin the STARS course were educating a couple squids out on a nice afternoon ride(me and the wife). The ride home was very nerve racking...

fouker187

VR, you need to accept the fact that you are the bad guy. Why else would someone attack you for bringing up safety?

redi2ride

I think this is a case of good ol fashioned Man crush... He's gettin him all worked up so later they can hug it out.hahahaha!!!

redi2ride

This reminds me of this....... The end is worth the wait

BuellCru

You must have missed it. The reason nobody said he was preaching is because in THAT forum he warned THEM there was BUTT.