PoltART F4i Stunt thread

PoltArt · 01-08-2012, 10:10 PM

I thought I would start a thread that will be dedicated to my F4i and the progression of stunting that I will have in the future.

So here we go!

I got her home 2 days ago. Then went to work on stripping her down and getting the bike ready for "insert dirty joke here."

Once I removed a few things the bike wouldn't start. After 2 days of work and help from Mikey, Dale, and Don we got it to start up. It just needed new spark plugs.

Tonight I went back and cleaned up the bike a little and hid the wires. Still got a lot to do, but it's a start. Also did the clean air mod today!

And here are a few pics of the bike from when I got it to how it looks right now.

PoltArt · 01-09-2012, 10:21 PM

So today I made my clipons more straight and did the kickstand bypass.

However, When getting a negative ground one of the screws broke in the water pump.

Anyone know how I can get it out, I have been trying all night screwing a hole through it but have had no luck yet. :S I really don't want to buy a new water pump because of this single screw messing everything up for me.

Mikey · 01-09-2012, 10:39 PM

Is it just a ground post, or is it actually one of the water pump bolts?? If its just a ground post then just put it on another nearby bolt and it'll ground the same as the post. If not your gonna need an "easy-out" only they never work as good as the name implies, there kinda a bitch to do. Holler at me tomorrow and hopefully my phone actually rings this time....lol

PoltArt · 01-09-2012, 10:52 PM

Well it's the side bolt. Attached is a picture showing exactly which one.

I took the cover off in order to get to it so hell now I will have to do a coolant flush and put engine ice into it lol.

Yeah man if you get a chance I would appreciate your help. I got one of those easy out bolt systems today, had no luck. Although I didn't get the version that has the 2 ends one for drilling and one for pulling.

The bolt with the / is the one that snapped 1/2 way off, and is located stiffly in the circled area.

normanrc51 · 01-10-2012, 11:56 AM

If you can get the whole water pump out, the part where the bolt is stuck inside, might be worth it to take it to a machinist. I have a guy that i use for machining that is fairly cheap and does great work.

RedStar · 01-10-2012, 12:12 PM

Easy out from Sears FTW!

normanrc51 · 01-10-2012, 01:26 PM

Or just go buy another bike like your brother..... better yet, just go borrow a bike from him long term....

RedStar · 01-10-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by normanrc51

Or just go buy another bike like your brother..... better yet, just go borrow a bike from him long term....

lol nah, easy out will do the trick.

PoltArt · 01-10-2012, 03:58 PM

Yeah no luck with the bolt, I think I will need to replace the water pump.

Damn it!

normanrc51 · 01-10-2012, 04:32 PM

An hour at a machinist will be cheaper then a new water pump....btw

Ryan@IdahoSportBikes · 01-10-2012, 04:43 PM

No way, there's always a way to get stuck bolts out!

Try other options mentioned here.

lil_schmitty · 01-10-2012, 05:10 PM

drill it out and re-tap.

PoltArt · 01-10-2012, 05:37 PM

I kept trying but had no luck so I got one from a guy for $25 shipped, should have it by the end of the week if all goes well.

lil_schmitty · 01-10-2012, 06:14 PM

drill completely thru the broken screw and then take a tap to re-thread the new hole (same size as previous hole). if you're lucky, it will be perfectly aligned

If not, just add a little gasket maker to prevent the pump from leaking... should be fine either way.

then again, almost not worth the hassle for $25 shipped.

PoltArt · 01-10-2012, 06:53 PM

Yeah I thought of that the problem is its really in there and this is the main screw that you untighten when flushing the coolant, so I wouldn't be able to just plug it. Yeah $25 isn't too bad.

JJSPRINT · 01-13-2012, 07:01 PM

Drill it out then put a hela coil in it and call it good!!!! Coming from a mechanic that has to do this all the damn time.. F-ing east coast car!!!!!

Ming · 01-15-2012, 10:01 PM

congrats on the new bike. can't wait to see it stunted.

PoltArt · 01-19-2012, 11:49 AM

So I got another update. A lot of it was just maintenance but I got my oil changed (oil filter was the most difficult one I have ever had to deal with) Got a new water pump and installed that. Also installed a 2nd idle. Straightened out the handlebars too.

The cosmetic/most visual difference is the seats. I love the blue/black look so I couldn't leave the seats black!

RedStar · 01-19-2012, 11:53 AM

Seats look great. Did Tanya do that? Also your XDL sticker on front fender looks crooked lol.

PoltArt · 01-19-2012, 11:59 AM

Thanks man. Kinda, but not really. She helped a little showed me how to sew properly but that is all me! I am a man of multiple talents, now I can be a seamstress!

It matches the groove on the fender, so it's straight with the curve there.

PoltArt · 01-28-2012, 01:34 AM

Today I worked on shortening my exhaust. In the end I really like how it turned out, it's not too short, but still short enough to not get destroyed.

shaner · 01-28-2012, 11:04 AM

Seriously dude? Black naked F4i with blue seats? You're killing me here!

Bike looks killer man!

PoltArt · 02-12-2012, 03:45 PM

I am currently painting my rims blue. Here's a preview.

BuellCru · 02-12-2012, 04:15 PM

Looks good.

Sethg1981 · 02-12-2012, 05:47 PM

You are more then welcome to donate that trioval to me and I will donate my rsc-3 to you. Hahaha

Im curious if you stunters do the oil pump mod? Or pick up mod or whatever its called so you dont run dry when riding out 1 up.

PoltArt · 02-12-2012, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethg1981

You are more then welcome to donate that trioval to me and I will donate my rsc-3 to you. Hahaha

Im curious if you stunters do the oil pump mod? Or pick up mod or whatever its called so you dont run dry when riding out 1 up.

trioval?

I didn't do it on my bike, I poured a tiny but more then needed, but usually this bike does not have that issue. From what I learned in the past it's more present with GSXR's. I might do it eventually, but as it stands I haven't done it.

2wheelsdown · 02-12-2012, 05:56 PM

I like.

Sethg1981 · 02-12-2012, 05:57 PM

Oh ok. I was just curious. I had read about it on zx6r.com and just wondered if it was a must or just something some people do.

Isnt that can the yoshi tri oval? I think thats what its called.

RedStar · 02-12-2012, 06:13 PM

Seth, if you read anything on a zx forum about a oil pickup then they are completely wrong. ZX6rs don't need any pickup at all. However they need a clean air mod just like most bikes if you want to stunt it.

Sethg1981 · 02-12-2012, 06:33 PM

Hey ya learn something new every day. I did the clean or Kleen air mod to mine. I need to finish up and get the block off plates. ConradM needs to do his. I noticed today all the emissions crap they talk about on his bike

PoltArt · 02-12-2012, 07:39 PM

Ooh okay, yeah that is the tri exhaust.

RedStar · 02-12-2012, 08:39 PM

What block off plates?

Its just about unplugging a few hoses. Taking out the big unit up front and replacing it with a T connector.

Then taking a hose from there and go right to the top plug under gas tank.

PoltArt · 02-13-2012, 09:38 PM

I got one of the rims done and put it on the bike. Also got a new clutch lever on.

PoltArt · 02-16-2012, 11:07 PM

So I got my A-town stunt cage and spent yesterday painting and clear coating the first side. I took a photo today and had a little fun in photoshop.

lil_schmitty · 02-17-2012, 07:10 AM

Nice!... sell the picture back to the mfg for advertising

Pimpit · 02-17-2012, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil_schmitty

Nice!... sell the picture back to the mfg for advertising

I was thinking the same thing. Every time I see it, I think it looks like a sale picture

lil_schmitty · 02-17-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpit

I was thinking the same thing. Every time I see it, I think it looks like a sale picture

May need to remove the VORTEX sticker on the helmet but everything else would work.

Sethg1981 · 02-17-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedStar

What block off plates?

Its just about unplugging a few hoses. Taking out the big unit up front and replacing it with a T connector.

Then taking a hose from there and go right to the top plug under gas tank.

They sell fancy shcmancy little block off plates. You pull off the covers the hoses are coming out of that you t'd and put on these little suckers. I dont know if they make much difference from the T job I did but if I remember right there cheap so I figure why the hell not. Plus I did not have the big emissions doohickie up front. Looks like the previous dood pulled that bad boy and just looped the hoses back on each other. I pulled all the hoses and capped everything.

RedStar · 02-17-2012, 02:32 PM

Hmm. Strange way of doing clean air mod. I will pm you something in a min sir.

PoltArt · 02-18-2012, 01:32 AM

So I got the 12 bar today, I was going to paint it blue so I spent tonight just test mounting it and preparing everything for the paint job, but after I put it on I liked it so much I decided to leave it black and keep it the way it is now.
Very hidden!!!!

01-08-2012, 10:10 PM	#1
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	PoltART F4i Stunt thread I thought I would start a thread that will be dedicated to my F4i and the progression of stunting that I will have in the future. So here we go! I got her home 2 days ago. Then went to work on stripping her down and getting the bike ready for "insert dirty joke here." Once I removed a few things the bike wouldn't start. After 2 days of work and help from Mikey, Dale, and Don we got it to start up. It just needed new spark plugs. Tonight I went back and cleaned up the bike a little and hid the wires. Still got a lot to do, but it's a start. Also did the clean air mod today! And here are a few pics of the bike from when I got it to how it looks right now.

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01-09-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	So today I made my clipons more straight and did the kickstand bypass. However, When getting a negative ground one of the screws broke in the water pump. Anyone know how I can get it out, I have been trying all night screwing a hole through it but have had no luck yet. :S I really don't want to buy a new water pump because of this single screw messing everything up for me.

01-09-2012, 10:39 PM	#3
Mikey Senior Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Kuna Posts: 2,246 I Ride: on sidewalks if needed.	Is it just a ground post, or is it actually one of the water pump bolts?? If its just a ground post then just put it on another nearby bolt and it'll ground the same as the post. If not your gonna need an "easy-out" only they never work as good as the name implies, there kinda a bitch to do. Holler at me tomorrow and hopefully my phone actually rings this time....lol

01-09-2012, 10:52 PM	#4
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Well it's the side bolt. Attached is a picture showing exactly which one. I took the cover off in order to get to it so hell now I will have to do a coolant flush and put engine ice into it lol. Yeah man if you get a chance I would appreciate your help. I got one of those easy out bolt systems today, had no luck. Although I didn't get the version that has the 2 ends one for drilling and one for pulling. The bolt with the / is the one that snapped 1/2 way off, and is located stiffly in the circled area.

01-10-2012, 11:56 AM	#5
normanrc51 Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Boise Posts: 741 I Ride: 2007 Midnight Warrior	If you can get the whole water pump out, the part where the bolt is stuck inside, might be worth it to take it to a machinist. I have a guy that i use for machining that is fairly cheap and does great work.

01-10-2012, 12:12 PM	#6
RedStar Senior Member Joined: Apr 2010 From: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,109 I Ride: 3 Stunt Bikes	Easy out from Sears FTW!

01-10-2012, 01:26 PM	#7
normanrc51 Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Boise Posts: 741 I Ride: 2007 Midnight Warrior	Or just go buy another bike like your brother..... better yet, just go borrow a bike from him long term....

01-10-2012, 03:58 PM	#9
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Yeah no luck with the bolt, I think I will need to replace the water pump. Damn it!

01-10-2012, 04:32 PM	#10
normanrc51 Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Boise Posts: 741 I Ride: 2007 Midnight Warrior	An hour at a machinist will be cheaper then a new water pump....btw

01-10-2012, 04:43 PM	#11
Ryan@IdahoSportBikes Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 From: Boise Posts: 3,023 I Ride: R6	No way, there's always a way to get stuck bolts out! Try other options mentioned here.

01-10-2012, 05:10 PM	#12
lil_schmitty Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: 2C Posts: 671 I Ride: 09 R1	drill it out and re-tap.

02-12-2012, 05:56 PM	#27
2wheelsdown Senior Member Joined: May 2007 From: K-Town Posts: 3,843 I Ride: kawasaki ZX-14, Suzuki Eiger, Yamaha Bruin, and a Artic Cat 250.	I like.

01-10-2012, 05:37 PM	#13
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	I kept trying but had no luck so I got one from a guy for $25 shipped, should have it by the end of the week if all goes well.

01-10-2012, 06:14 PM	#14
lil_schmitty Senior Member Joined: Aug 2007 From: 2C Posts: 671 I Ride: 09 R1	drill completely thru the broken screw and then take a tap to re-thread the new hole (same size as previous hole). if you're lucky, it will be perfectly aligned If not, just add a little gasket maker to prevent the pump from leaking... should be fine either way. then again, almost not worth the hassle for $25 shipped.

01-10-2012, 06:53 PM	#15
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Yeah I thought of that the problem is its really in there and this is the main screw that you untighten when flushing the coolant, so I wouldn't be able to just plug it. Yeah $25 isn't too bad.

01-13-2012, 07:01 PM	#16
JJSPRINT Senior Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Boise, Id Posts: 546 I Ride: YOUR ASS!!!	Drill it out then put a hela coil in it and call it good!!!! Coming from a mechanic that has to do this all the damn time.. F-ing east coast car!!!!!

01-15-2012, 10:01 PM	#17
Ming Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Boise Posts: 1,574 I Ride: a 2008 KLR705	congrats on the new bike. can't wait to see it stunted.

01-19-2012, 11:49 AM	#18
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	So I got another update. A lot of it was just maintenance but I got my oil changed (oil filter was the most difficult one I have ever had to deal with) Got a new water pump and installed that. Also installed a 2nd idle. Straightened out the handlebars too. The cosmetic/most visual difference is the seats. I love the blue/black look so I couldn't leave the seats black!

01-19-2012, 11:53 AM	#19
RedStar Senior Member Joined: Apr 2010 From: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,109 I Ride: 3 Stunt Bikes	Seats look great. Did Tanya do that? Also your XDL sticker on front fender looks crooked lol.

01-19-2012, 11:59 AM	#20
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Thanks man. Kinda, but not really. She helped a little showed me how to sew properly but that is all me! I am a man of multiple talents, now I can be a seamstress! It matches the groove on the fender, so it's straight with the curve there.

01-28-2012, 01:34 AM	#21
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Today I worked on shortening my exhaust. In the end I really like how it turned out, it's not too short, but still short enough to not get destroyed.

01-28-2012, 11:04 AM	#22
shaner Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: The Hood Posts: 3,418 I Ride: ...............	Seriously dude? Black naked F4i with blue seats? You're killing me here! Bike looks killer man!

02-12-2012, 03:45 PM	#23
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	I am currently painting my rims blue. Here's a preview.

02-12-2012, 04:15 PM	#24
BuellCru Joined: Apr 2009 From: Boise Posts: 2,751 I Ride: Buell Firebolt XB12R	Looks good.

02-12-2012, 05:47 PM	#25
Sethg1981 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2011 From: Boise Id Posts: 434 I Ride: Over anything in my way.	You are more then welcome to donate that trioval to me and I will donate my rsc-3 to you. Hahaha Im curious if you stunters do the oil pump mod? Or pick up mod or whatever its called so you dont run dry when riding out 1 up.

02-12-2012, 05:57 PM	#28
Sethg1981 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2011 From: Boise Id Posts: 434 I Ride: Over anything in my way.	Oh ok. I was just curious. I had read about it on zx6r.com and just wondered if it was a must or just something some people do. Isnt that can the yoshi tri oval? I think thats what its called.

02-12-2012, 06:13 PM	#29
RedStar Senior Member Joined: Apr 2010 From: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,109 I Ride: 3 Stunt Bikes	Seth, if you read anything on a zx forum about a oil pickup then they are completely wrong. ZX6rs don't need any pickup at all. However they need a clean air mod just like most bikes if you want to stunt it.

02-12-2012, 06:33 PM	#30
Sethg1981 Senior Member Joined: Oct 2011 From: Boise Id Posts: 434 I Ride: Over anything in my way.	Hey ya learn something new every day. I did the clean or Kleen air mod to mine. I need to finish up and get the block off plates. ConradM needs to do his. I noticed today all the emissions crap they talk about on his bike

02-12-2012, 07:39 PM	#31
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	Ooh okay, yeah that is the tri exhaust.

02-12-2012, 08:39 PM	#32
RedStar Senior Member Joined: Apr 2010 From: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,109 I Ride: 3 Stunt Bikes	What block off plates? Its just about unplugging a few hoses. Taking out the big unit up front and replacing it with a T connector. Then taking a hose from there and go right to the top plug under gas tank.

02-13-2012, 09:38 PM	#33
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	I got one of the rims done and put it on the bike. Also got a new clutch lever on.

02-16-2012, 11:07 PM	#34
PoltArt Senior Member Joined: Nov 2009 From: Meridian, ID Posts: 639 I Ride: 06 Z1000 • 05 F4i	So I got my A-town stunt cage and spent yesterday painting and clear coating the first side. I took a photo today and had a little fun in photoshop.