PoltArt

I am new to motorcycles as a whole, but I had a question about how a couple stunts are performed.

I don't know what it is called, but I see videos of drivers doing a very sharp 90 or 180 degree stop/slide. Is this done by going and quickly turning and gripping the front brake to let the rear slide?


And burn outs, I am pretty sure it's done by holding the front break and throttling right?

Just wanted to ask you guys about these two little stunts for now.

Thanks to anyone and everyone in advance. Sorry for asking such basic information, but I would like to know 100% rather then do something wrong.

Misbehavin

utube.. dude.. watch and learn..

2wheelsdown

PoltArt

As far as burn out's go I will thanks for the tip, what about the sliding turns? I tried searching and had no luck. . . .

Pimpit

if tou are sliding the rear tire out it is normally caused by rear brake or in some cases engine brake on looser surfaces. Just like a bicycle when you were a kid, lock up the rear and it will slide. and yes burnouts are front brake + throttle

Ryan@IdahoSportBikes

If all that was required was to watch someone perform... The world would be full of professional athletes.
Unless you are watching a how to guide on youtube, simply watching someone drag knee, ride a wheelie, or do a stoppie isn't going to ensure success or safety.

You were right to ask.

I know nothing about stunting or I'd help you out.

Ryan@IdahoSportBikes

Oh and... not to be rude but no one is a motorcycle 'driver', they are 'riders'
And burnouts and sliding the rear tire like that... are considered squidly. Being a squid is a bad thing FYI.

lost cause

ya lockin up ur rear break is what will slid the tire, at least thats how ive always done it

PoltArt

Well I don't intend to ruin my tires and the slides I would only do for fun on my own once in a while.

Most of the reason is just to fulfill my curiosity.

And thanks for letting me know the riders not drivers, didn't know it was so precise, but I will make sure to not make this mistake in the future.

Ryan@IdahoSportBikes

HAHA, I was just giving you a hard time. I don't think most people care. I think it's just been a personal choice of mine to make the two distinct, driving vs. riding that is.

Good luck!

PoltArt

Oh I don't mind. I am new to motorcycles so I take any advise and education people offer.

CaptCrash

PolArt--are you talking about DRIFT?

scooterholic

Cool vid CaptCrash. Sorry PoltArt I can't answer your question's I'm new at it to.

Bungeeguy

Slides- lean and rear brake. Lean to little and high side, lean too much and low side.

Rolling burnies- front brake and high rpm, too low and the tire will start to bite and push your front end out.

BuellCru

There is a guy on Craigslist that teaches any stunt you want for $50. He's really famous and you may know him as the "Yuuttuuuggggghhhhhhhh" guy. I'll try to find a video of his awesome teachings. Anyone here can verify that the dude is the shiz.

whitedevil

Oh yea, never wear gloves because you can't feel the clutch and brake as well, gotta love his 600/750/1000 also!

e11charlie

That was awesome.

PoltArt

Well sort of yeah, the concept is the same but its a very sharp move, to turn or turn around. I saw it in some stunt videos when the riders are trying to quickly turn around they do these slides.

Also to perform these should I have less tire pressure in my tire? I was watching stoppie lessons and it said to have less pressure then the required amount for them to work out.

Haha I actually saw that guy before. (Not in person but the video) I don't think I would like his advice at all. :P

stubby

Lowering your tire pressure gives you more traction as it will flatten out the tire somewhat. It isn't required, but might make it easier for you to learn on as it will be more stable.

PoltArt

Ahh I see, thanks for that explanation.

stubby

Just be careful, as lower pressures result in higher tire temps. So before going on a nice twisty road it would be wise to adjust your pressures again. It will also alter your turn in feeling, and how fast the bike will turn in.

PoltArt

By that you mean lower it or add it?

Sorry I am new to this all so I might be asking a lot of dumb questions.

stubby

lower air pressure to stunt, raise it to cruise around and hit the twisties.

Exitwounds

Burnouts are really easy on bikes, although I have never ridden a 250. You just grab the front brake lean forward/stand up off the seat and slip the clutch out at like 4K(?) RPM. Idk what RPM, I haven't really watched because it's so easy to do and you almost wont know its loose if your butt is off the seat. Burnout's EAT your tire up, especially the softer compounds you find of sport bikes. It causes all sorts of weird disfiguring of the tire if you do it on rough surfaces.

I am no stunt expert by a long shot, but I have messed around a bit. Learn a wheelie before a stoppie/endo. If shit goes wrong in a wheelie, you can bring it down with the rear brake and generally recover easier than a stoppie. When you're on the nose, you have no "oh shit" button and body position is really crucial. I think stoppies are cooler, but they require a lot for finesse and guts to get over that initial hump IMO.

PoltArt

Do any of you guys ever do that turn, I think if anything I will just wait till summer and when you guys have those stunt meets I will go to learn, I tried doing the slide in the back of the sub division and so far had no luck, more of a stop then a slide.

Exitwounds

Is the turn you're talking about like a motocross type turn? The kind where you plant you foot and slide out the back, spinning around while your leg kind of acts like a post you are circling?

shaner

Well, you can't even consider doing any of these stunts until you get a GSXR 600/750/1000.

e11charlie

Thats the new 2010 GSXR. The three cylinders one with a 600cc, a 750cc, and a 1000cc piston sizes. Thats is where the signature yyuuutttuuugghhhhh sound comes from. It is a very unique and ground breaking design.

CaptCrash

Are you looking for a 180 Stoppie?

ben128

If you are in to learning about stunts, tricks and other crazy attempts at mutilation, the way to do it well is the same as any other sport, find someone that is good at them (and when i say good, i dont mean complete idiots, but someone with good advice and experience.) Get yourself some good gear (Id recommend leather jacket, pants and gloves and some good shoes that cover your ankles) and go practice! You will know in the first 3-4 sessions if its your cup o tea. Being a person that has wrecked 3 times and 2 of them being on the race track, I can tell you, the last thing you want to do is push yourself out of your comfort zone before you feel in control. Then once in control, dont do them in traffic.

lost cause

ive watched r1bran do so pretty sic little bits of stunting wheelies an stoppies and what not. matt and big chris both throw down some crazy wheelies from what ive seen. might want to talk to one of them if u need sum help

Ming

gas, brake, dip.

lost cause

ShotGunBetty

PoltArt

Well I was practicing wheelies again today. I do stay in my comfort zone. I just try to advance slowly every single time, no rushing at all.

As far as the turn goes, the quickest example would be the video here:

http://rideicon.com/index.jsp?homeIm...iantHelmet_vid

When the two guys ride out of the garage they do the quick turn/slide that I am speaking of. I will try and find a better video.

Thanks for the tips so far guys, I appreciate all of them!

Also on this video at around 0:57 this guy does what I am talking about

CaptCrash

Same move we used to do on stingray bikes with a kickback brake. Lock the rear, push the rear out. OH, and notice the dust-up as he does it? Works good on a surface that won't suddenly give you bite. Danger is a highside.

e11charlie

I wander how much that helmet gets kicked around at speeds above 100mph.

BuellCru

The real danger would be putting flat spots on the left wall of your tire and then hitting the twisties come spring and washing out.

BuellCru

Every once in a while I do this in my garage to park my bike backwards.