So I have a question for sponsored riders

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 06:27 AM

So I have a guy who is going to sponsor me this year. He pretty much wants me to be a billboard for his business. Now I know thats kind of the point inbeing sponsored, but he wants advertisement consisting of most of my bike, my leathers, and my helmet. So my question I guess would be, How much should a sponsor pay if he is going to take up that much space? I mean hell my the custom paint I was gonna get seems kind of like a waist, but at the same time this guy is paying well for it? So any opinions?

e11charlie · 01-21-2010, 08:07 AM

Space? You are only 4 ft tall with that amount of space all he has to pay is gas.

Sorry had to.

Cider · 01-21-2010, 08:34 AM

I suggest you charge no more than he's willing to pay and no less than you're willing to do it for--a fair price is purely subjective. I worked in advertising once, and rates were basically set by what people were willing to pay. You might do a little research to see what he pays for other local advertising to get some ideas.

mxroostin · 01-21-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cider

I suggest you charge no more than he's willing to pay and no less than you're willing to do it for--a fair price is purely subjective. I worked in advertising once, and rates were basically set by what people were willing to pay. You might do a little research to see what he pays for other local advertising to get some ideas.

I would have to agree with Paul...

I would NEVER paint a sponsor on anything bike or helmet...I would use a vinyl graphic, so you could peel it off if they didnt renew...What are your responsiblities to this said sponsor? Tit for tat...

LazyJ · 01-21-2010, 10:49 AM

whats he sponsoring you to do....

...how much is he really going to gain from your advertising....

...how much is his sponsorship really worth it to you...are you doing it for the paint job, doing it for drag strip entry

how is it really going to benefit you....?

does it really cost that much to drag a bike or am I missing something...(mechanical not included obviously)

stubby · 01-21-2010, 10:53 AM

Well seems how you don't hold the #1 plate, and at Firebird you don't really get to shout out your sponsor in the winners circle to many people it would be up to the sponsor. Some sponsors only give you discounts on parts, yet you have to place a sticker on your bike, and wear a patch on your leathers. As for the helmet, I wouldn't put stickers on it.

If somebody sponsors you that is exactly what you are, and advertisement. Part of your resume, should list the dates you will race (and you need to keep these unless you are in the hospital), places you will be (events outside of racing, and not street riding) where you will be showcasing their product, training etc. They want to see you out getting them business, and talking about them in a good way.

If a company was to give you $200 for drag racing locally that would be a decent sponsor to slap a sticker on the bike and wear a patch for. They might even require that you put a sticker on your trailer too. The more money they give you the bigger the ads will be, and the more hoops you will have to jump through.

Every sponsor will have a contract that you sign, that specifies the rules and yes they can drop their sponsor during the season if you don't meet their expectations. Some companies will donate money to you for tax reasons, although you still need to promote them every chance you get and they normally don't have contracts but they also don't hand out money per race, its normally a one time payment and normally not a lot of money.

Once you start winning races, getting their name in the press, getting exposure of their patches and stickers your amounts will increase as long as you fit their image and live up to the contract.

If this is for paint, most painters will only give you a discount on the paint, and then slap a sticker on your bike.

Good luck with the sponsors.

R1DON · 01-21-2010, 01:55 PM

my boss gives me 500 a year to fly a sticker on my bike and hopefully win some races. pays for a few of my parts that i tend to get every year

turbo1261 · 01-21-2010, 02:37 PM

It would also depend on the company(what its for) and if it is just money or its free bees as well
and if it is a company that you are willing to endorse

R1DON · 01-21-2010, 06:19 PM

one other thing you need to remember is that they will expect some decent results. now dont take this wrong but having one lucky day doesnt make you a sponsorable rider in my book. you need to have something under your belt if you want to continue with it. if you are doing it to look cool on friday and saturday nights, dont do it. it will only make the relationship between you and that person shaky at best.

bigroar · 01-21-2010, 06:27 PM

i have never been sponsored but when my dad gets sponsored he NEVER TAKES CASH. He will however, let them buy his tires, 4 link suspension, turbos, intercoolers and things like that. He will never PAINT anything on his suit, car or helmet but he will put stickers on the car and at the end of the year, if they do not renew their sponsorship then they get pulled and replaced with someone who will.

katnip · 01-21-2010, 06:48 PM

What did you say to this guy to make him think you were worth sponsoring? I thought sponsors were for big time shit...or people that invest alot of time in money into making their bikes competitive (ie extended swingarms, sprocket conversions, power adders, ect)

stubby · 01-21-2010, 06:55 PM

Any rider at any level can be sponsored. Most sponsors however like to see wins which equals more advertising for them. Most novices/amateurs don't get big sponsorships unless they know somebody, and a lot just come in the way of discounted parts/gear which even then helps. The only draw back is you then must use their stuff so it might actually cost you more in the long run.

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 06:59 PM

Well I asked him how much he sponsors the car at meridian and he said we won't go there lol. It will all be vinyl stickers on the bike. The leather will be stitched and the helmet he will by as well as the leather. The only thing with paint is I might do a scheme close to his business colors. And as to what you said Don, I already told him I have only been out there a few times and this will be my first full season to race. He just wants to have his name out there like he already has at meridian. Besides most of it is a tax write off to him anyways. I also told him that if I go out I will test and tune the rest of the day whenever offered.
As for lazy He is sponsoring me to to get his name as many places as possible, besides his radio advertisement. I will pretty much be a billboard for him, and in return I get some very nice benifits. It is a business I believe strongly in and a company I am working with on other business.
As for putting the name out there and advertising my bike isn't used for just track, so he will be getting advertising everyday pretty much.

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stubby

Any rider at any level can be sponsored. Most sponsors however like to see wins which equals more advertising for them. Most novices/amateurs don't get big sponsorships unless they know somebody, and a lot just come in the way of discounted parts/gear which even then helps. The only draw back is you then must use their stuff so it might actually cost you more in the long run.

That's exctly how I got my sponsorship. And thank god he is not in the parts business so I get to use the parts I feel are best, not the parts they pick out.

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Originally Posted by katnip

What did you say to this guy to make him think you were worth sponsoring? I thought sponsors were for big time ###t...or people that invest alot of time in money into making their bikes competitive (ie extended swingarms, sprocket conversions, power adders, ect)

It was actually somebody I know and have been in business for. As for being serious and investing time, I will be at every race, and advertising pretty much every time I get on my bike. And I will be investing in my bike also.

r1bran · 01-21-2010, 08:52 PM

WOW.. Really?? Who is sponsoring you Scott. Sounds like more bull$hit to me

I find it funny that your "sponsored" by this guy yet your avoiding telling anyone who he is. Im not trying to be a dick but I think that your kinda asking for it by posting this...

CBRF2Old · 01-21-2010, 09:28 PM

Actually, I think Pimpit is withholding who is talking to him about sponsorship to keep anyone else from jumping in and trying to take it away from him.

I say go for it. Any little bit helps.

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRF2Old

Actually, I think Pimpit is withholding who is talking to him about sponsorship to keep anyone else from jumping in and trying to take it away from him.

I say go for it. Any little bit helps.

You are exactly right!!! I am withholding who it is until it is a done deal, not only to keep it to myself but also to not look like an ass if it falls through (which I'm pretty sure it won't as he is a business associate of mine). All
I am willing to say at this time is it is a local business that I am working with on some projects.
This thread wasn't about flaunting and being all "oh oh I got a sponsor". It was more along the lines of how much should I be getting for taking up that much space.

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:28 PM

well my money is on the new dinos joint and they are the said sponsor. so my guess is tydd has competition on the new purple bike lol . but hey its my guess and if so ....... it should be a sight to see !!!!

whitedevil · 01-21-2010, 10:33 PM

Obvioulsy he wouldn't tell anyone right now, hell, for the first time I actually understand and agree with him to not say something. Not like it would be that hard to steal it from him if they had any clue how he is on a bike.

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:34 PM

pfft

stubby · 01-21-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whitedevil

Not like it would be that hard to steel it from him if they had any clue how he is on a bike.

Steel or steal? wetodd

whitedevil · 01-21-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by loopy

pfft

unless you are Loopy.

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:38 PM

lol

whitedevil · 01-21-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stubby

If somebody sponsors you that is exactly what you are, and advertisement. Part of your resume, should list the dates you will race (and you need to keep these unless you are in the hospital), places you will be (events outside of racing, and not street riding) where you will be showcasing their product, training etc. They want to see you out getting them business, and talking about them in a good way.

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Originally Posted by stubby

Steel or steal? wetodd

Sorry, I wasn't as fancy as you JA!

lost cause · 01-21-2010, 10:41 PM

how are you gona get sponserd with no bike?

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:44 PM

boys boys focus this threads about pimpit growing up don't thread jack .............................

:ro fl:

:rofl :

: rofl:

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lost cause

how are you gona get sponserd with no bike?

very good question do tell

whitedevil · 01-21-2010, 10:45 PM

oh crap! He is growing up? and I missed it! FOCK!

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by whitedevil

oh crap! He is growing up? and I missed it! FOCK!

dude thats like me getting taller its just not going to happen

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:47 PM

crap now im thread jacking

whitedevil · 01-21-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by loopy

crap now im thread jacking

loopy · 01-21-2010, 10:53 PM

so back on topic pimpit is getting sponsored

by the new dinos

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by loopy

well my money is on the new dinos joint and they are the said sponsor. so my guess is tydd has competition on the new purple bike lol . but hey its my guess and if so ....... it should be a sight to see !!!!

First off no purple lol. Dinos colors are maroon and black. Second I might be sponsored by dinos, but not yet, we have to get the damn thing open first, which hopefully will be the second week of february.

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Originally Posted by lost cause

how are you gona get sponserd with no bike?

Who says I have no bike?

New year, new season, new bike, new sponsors, new jobs, new me

loopy · 01-21-2010, 11:22 PM

well good on you man good luck and i called it lol !!!

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by loopy

well good on you man good luck and i called it lol !!!

No you didn't lol. Dinos isnt the sponsor, and if they do sponsor once we get it going, it wont be my primary. Good try though.

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 11:27 PM

Oh and it's not in boise lol

loopy · 01-21-2010, 11:31 PM

ooohhhh its a Columbian drug runner i get it

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 11:34 PM

Bingo!!! We have a winner

jk

Next

katnip · 01-21-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimpit

I am willing to say at this time is it is a local business that I am working with on some projects.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpit

Oh and it's not in boise lol

[QUOTE=Pimpit;125997] Second I might be sponsored by dinos, but not yet, we have to get the damn thing open first, which hopefully will be the second week of february.
[QUOTE]

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Originally Posted by Pimpit

. Dinos isnt the sponsor, and if they do sponsor once we get it going, it wont be my primary.

Im super duper confused can we get the story straight

Pimpit · 01-21-2010, 11:43 PM

As of now I am not sponsored by Dinos. Once we get it open I might be. But if I am it will not be my main sponsor. So long story short I can't get sponsored by a business that isn't opened.

01-21-2010, 10:53 AM	#6
stubby Senior Member Joined: Mar 2008 From: A boring place without any tracks Posts: 4,843 I Ride: 08 GSXR1000 street 08 GSXR600 race bike 99 TZ125 Smoker 07 KTM 250xcw dirt xr50 pit bike 49cc Pocket bike	Well seems how you don't hold the #1 plate, and at Firebird you don't really get to shout out your sponsor in the winners circle to many people it would be up to the sponsor. Some sponsors only give you discounts on parts, yet you have to place a sticker on your bike, and wear a patch on your leathers. As for the helmet, I wouldn't put stickers on it. If somebody sponsors you that is exactly what you are, and advertisement. Part of your resume, should list the dates you will race (and you need to keep these unless you are in the hospital), places you will be (events outside of racing, and not street riding) where you will be showcasing their product, training etc. They want to see you out getting them business, and talking about them in a good way. If a company was to give you $200 for drag racing locally that would be a decent sponsor to slap a sticker on the bike and wear a patch for. They might even require that you put a sticker on your trailer too. The more money they give you the bigger the ads will be, and the more hoops you will have to jump through. Every sponsor will have a contract that you sign, that specifies the rules and yes they can drop their sponsor during the season if you don't meet their expectations. Some companies will donate money to you for tax reasons, although you still need to promote them every chance you get and they normally don't have contracts but they also don't hand out money per race, its normally a one time payment and normally not a lot of money. Once you start winning races, getting their name in the press, getting exposure of their patches and stickers your amounts will increase as long as you fit their image and live up to the contract. If this is for paint, most painters will only give you a discount on the paint, and then slap a sticker on your bike. Good luck with the sponsors. Last edited by stubby; 01-21-2010 at 10:56 AM.

01-21-2010, 10:33 PM	#19
whitedevil Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Que Nah Posts: 5,876 I Ride: F4i CBR600	Obvioulsy he wouldn't tell anyone right now, hell, for the first time I actually understand and agree with him to not say something. Not like it would be that hard to steal it from him if they had any clue how he is on a bike. Last edited by whitedevil; 01-21-2010 at 10:36 PM.

01-21-2010, 10:44 PM	#26
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	boys boys focus this threads about pimpit growing up don't thread jack .............................:ro fl::rofl :: rofl:

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01-21-2010, 06:27 AM	#1
Pimpit Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: Nampa, Id Posts: 3,836 I Ride: 06 GSX-R1000, 01 Yammy V-Turd 650, and 1979 Honda CM 185 Twin Star putt putt project	So I have a question for sponsored riders So I have a guy who is going to sponsor me this year. He pretty much wants me to be a billboard for his business. Now I know thats kind of the point inbeing sponsored, but he wants advertisement consisting of most of my bike, my leathers, and my helmet. So my question I guess would be, How much should a sponsor pay if he is going to take up that much space? I mean hell my the custom paint I was gonna get seems kind of like a waist, but at the same time this guy is paying well for it? So any opinions?

01-21-2010, 08:07 AM	#2
e11charlie Senior Member Joined: May 2009 From: no where Posts: 2,629	Space? You are only 4 ft tall with that amount of space all he has to pay is gas. Sorry had to.

01-21-2010, 08:34 AM	#3
Cider Senior Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,349	I suggest you charge no more than he's willing to pay and no less than you're willing to do it for--a fair price is purely subjective. I worked in advertising once, and rates were basically set by what people were willing to pay. You might do a little research to see what he pays for other local advertising to get some ideas.

01-21-2010, 10:49 AM	#5
LazyJ Senior Member Joined: May 2007 From: FUQ Posts: 8,069	whats he sponsoring you to do.... ...how much is he really going to gain from your advertising.... ...how much is his sponsorship really worth it to you...are you doing it for the paint job, doing it for drag strip entry how is it really going to benefit you....? does it really cost that much to drag a bike or am I missing something...(mechanical not included obviously)

01-21-2010, 01:55 PM	#7
R1DON Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006 From: Nampa Posts: 1,957 I Ride: 08 zx10	my boss gives me 500 a year to fly a sticker on my bike and hopefully win some races. pays for a few of my parts that i tend to get every year

01-21-2010, 02:37 PM	#8
turbo1261 Member Joined: Aug 2009 From: boise Posts: 69 I Ride: Anything with two wheels	It would also depend on the company(what its for) and if it is just money or its free bees as well and if it is a company that you are willing to endorse

01-21-2010, 06:19 PM	#9
R1DON Senior Member Joined: Oct 2006 From: Nampa Posts: 1,957 I Ride: 08 zx10	one other thing you need to remember is that they will expect some decent results. now dont take this wrong but having one lucky day doesnt make you a sponsorable rider in my book. you need to have something under your belt if you want to continue with it. if you are doing it to look cool on friday and saturday nights, dont do it. it will only make the relationship between you and that person shaky at best.

01-21-2010, 06:27 PM	#10
bigroar Senior Member Joined: Sep 2009 From: Payette, Idaho Posts: 204 I Ride: 2004 Hayabusa GSXR 1300	i have never been sponsored but when my dad gets sponsored he NEVER TAKES CASH. He will however, let them buy his tires, 4 link suspension, turbos, intercoolers and things like that. He will never PAINT anything on his suit, car or helmet but he will put stickers on the car and at the end of the year, if they do not renew their sponsorship then they get pulled and replaced with someone who will.

01-21-2010, 06:48 PM	#11
katnip Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: The Gator's Lair Posts: 1,652 I Ride: '06 GSXR 600	What did you say to this guy to make him think you were worth sponsoring? I thought sponsors were for big time shit...or people that invest alot of time in money into making their bikes competitive (ie extended swingarms, sprocket conversions, power adders, ect)

01-21-2010, 06:55 PM	#12
stubby Senior Member Joined: Mar 2008 From: A boring place without any tracks Posts: 4,843 I Ride: 08 GSXR1000 street 08 GSXR600 race bike 99 TZ125 Smoker 07 KTM 250xcw dirt xr50 pit bike 49cc Pocket bike	Any rider at any level can be sponsored. Most sponsors however like to see wins which equals more advertising for them. Most novices/amateurs don't get big sponsorships unless they know somebody, and a lot just come in the way of discounted parts/gear which even then helps. The only draw back is you then must use their stuff so it might actually cost you more in the long run.

01-21-2010, 06:59 PM	#13
Pimpit Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: Nampa, Id Posts: 3,836 I Ride: 06 GSX-R1000, 01 Yammy V-Turd 650, and 1979 Honda CM 185 Twin Star putt putt project	Well I asked him how much he sponsors the car at meridian and he said we won't go there lol. It will all be vinyl stickers on the bike. The leather will be stitched and the helmet he will by as well as the leather. The only thing with paint is I might do a scheme close to his business colors. And as to what you said Don, I already told him I have only been out there a few times and this will be my first full season to race. He just wants to have his name out there like he already has at meridian. Besides most of it is a tax write off to him anyways. I also told him that if I go out I will test and tune the rest of the day whenever offered. As for lazy He is sponsoring me to to get his name as many places as possible, besides his radio advertisement. I will pretty much be a billboard for him, and in return I get some very nice benifits. It is a business I believe strongly in and a company I am working with on other business. As for putting the name out there and advertising my bike isn't used for just track, so he will be getting advertising everyday pretty much.

01-21-2010, 08:52 PM	#15
r1bran Joined: May 2009 From: NAMPA Posts: 1,680 I Ride: 2007 YZFR1	WOW.. Really?? Who is sponsoring you Scott. Sounds like more bull$hit to me I find it funny that your "sponsored" by this guy yet your avoiding telling anyone who he is. Im not trying to be a dick but I think that your kinda asking for it by posting this...

01-21-2010, 09:28 PM	#16
CBRF2Old Joined: Aug 2006 From: Boise Posts: 4,823 I Ride: 83 and 84 Honda Ascot's and 91 CBR600F2	Actually, I think Pimpit is withholding who is talking to him about sponsorship to keep anyone else from jumping in and trying to take it away from him. I say go for it. Any little bit helps.

01-21-2010, 10:28 PM	#18
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	well my money is on the new dinos joint and they are the said sponsor. so my guess is tydd has competition on the new purple bike lol . but hey its my guess and if so ....... it should be a sight to see !!!!

01-21-2010, 10:34 PM	#20
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	pfft

01-21-2010, 10:38 PM	#23
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	lol

01-21-2010, 10:41 PM	#25
lost cause Senior Member Joined: Jul 2009 From: boise Posts: 745 I Ride: low and slow	how are you gona get sponserd with no bike?

01-21-2010, 10:45 PM	#28
whitedevil Senior Member Joined: May 2008 From: Que Nah Posts: 5,876 I Ride: F4i CBR600	oh crap! He is growing up? and I missed it! FOCK!

01-21-2010, 10:47 PM	#30
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	crap now im thread jacking

01-21-2010, 10:53 PM	#32
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	so back on topic pimpit is getting sponsored by the new dinos

01-21-2010, 11:22 PM	#34
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	well good on you man good luck and i called it lol !!!

01-21-2010, 11:27 PM	#36
Pimpit Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: Nampa, Id Posts: 3,836 I Ride: 06 GSX-R1000, 01 Yammy V-Turd 650, and 1979 Honda CM 185 Twin Star putt putt project	Oh and it's not in boise lol

01-21-2010, 11:31 PM	#37
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	ooohhhh its a Columbian drug runner i get it

01-21-2010, 11:34 PM	#38
Pimpit Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: Nampa, Id Posts: 3,836 I Ride: 06 GSX-R1000, 01 Yammy V-Turd 650, and 1979 Honda CM 185 Twin Star putt putt project	Bingo!!! We have a winner jk Next

01-21-2010, 11:43 PM	#40
Pimpit Senior Member Joined: Jul 2008 From: Nampa, Id Posts: 3,836 I Ride: 06 GSX-R1000, 01 Yammy V-Turd 650, and 1979 Honda CM 185 Twin Star putt putt project	As of now I am not sponsored by Dinos. Once we get it open I might be. But if I am it will not be my main sponsor. So long story short I can't get sponsored by a business that isn't opened.