Need a Head for a 2002 Honda CRF450r Any idea's Sites

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:34 PM

Yeah I need to get a new or used head for my brother 2002 honda crf450r any ideas site anyone knows of. Damn dealer here wants a arm and a leg to rebuild it. Just trying to get it done for cheap for him or get a used one. Sucks not having anyone to ride with.. Let me know Pleasee!!!!!

loopy · 03-10-2010, 11:38 PM

whats wrong with the head #1 and midwestaction.com sells them at a good price

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:41 PM

Well his bike doesn't start. we have to jump start it always he thinks hes knows how ti fix things becasue hes a jet air mcn. But honda told me the head needs to be rebuilt and I know the valves have been adjusted twice already any idea

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:44 PM

was that site midwestactioncycle because that site isnt working

BuellCru · 03-10-2010, 11:45 PM

If the head isn't cracked you should be able to have it re-sleeved and buy a new piston kit.

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:47 PM

yeah thats what carls said but they wanted like almost 500 bucks for all that guess if thats what we have to do illl buy for him but any ideas if that what needs to be done to his bike. its like when its cold it wont start but when we jump start it and it warms up it runs fine

loopy · 03-10-2010, 11:49 PM

sounds like its getting close to needing new valves or adjustment swing the bike by i have done this to many time lol its not that bad i can teach ya how to adjust the valves or replace the head depending on what ya need after looking at it !

BuellCru · 03-10-2010, 11:50 PM

Check the compression first and see if there is any issues. If I remember correctly you should read between 100 - 105 lbs...Wait, I'll go look that up. BRB

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:55 PM

Ok loopy Ill have to get his bike this weekened but hope its not in pieces lol which it may be... Yeah we have adjusted the valves already even by carls seems like me might need a head we will see

cms1172 · 03-10-2010, 11:55 PM

There are several shops in town that specialize in head work. I know of one just on cole road, at Amity.
for 500 you could probably get a whole engine. through ebay.

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:56 PM

Ill check compression to thanks man

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:57 PM

yeah I know Ill have to tell him thats what I keep telling him lol but if you buy from ebay you dont know what your getting

loopy · 03-10-2010, 11:58 PM

remember it has a decompression to ease starting so 65psi to 75psi is normal

Suzuki28 · 03-10-2010, 11:59 PM

k

BuellCru · 03-11-2010, 12:00 AM

Another possibility is new valves all together. If Loopy has done this many times he may know how to do a leak down test on it. A leak down test will determine whether or not you need new valves. If he can't run it over to Suicycle in Nampa on 3rd Ave. They should be able to do it pretty cheap. They now have the stuff for doing that bike since they did mine.

loopy · 03-11-2010, 12:02 AM

yup good place

BuellCru · 03-11-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopy

remember it has a decompression to ease starting so 65psi to 75psi is normal

Forgot about the decompression.

lost cause · 03-11-2010, 03:40 AM

i may know were to get a head localy if it comes to that pm me ill hook u up with the guys number

Liteone · 03-11-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzuki28

Well his bike doesn't start. we have to jump start it always he thinks hes knows how ti fix things becasue hes a jet air mcn. But honda told me the head needs to be rebuilt and I know the valves have been adjusted twice already any idea

Huh? junp start? that's a cool trick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzuki28

Ok loopy Ill have to get his bike this weekened but hope its not in pieces lol which it may be... Yeah we have adjusted the valves already even by carls seems like me might need a head we will see

if it runs, the heads not broken. If it hates to start the intakes R too tight. You can go down to 120 shim to get .06 clearance, if tighter than that then need new valves or seats. Not a hard problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuellCru

Another possibility is new valves all together. If Loopy has done this many times he may know how to do a leak down test on it. A leak down test will determine whether or not you need new valves. If he can't run it over to Suicycle in Nampa on 3rd Ave. They should be able to do it pretty cheap. They now have the stuff for doing that bike since they did mine.

Bad idea if U want ur stuff to work for very long, they haven't been putting out good stuff for a while now.

just My opinions from racing dirtbikes.

hondarider · 03-19-2010, 01:19 AM

Hondas are notorious for their valves. I redid my valves recently because I was down to the smallest shim I could put in there from the Hot cams shim kit. Once those titanium valves start to go, you have to shim them sooner each time. I converted to stainless on the intakes. Not sure if I felt any power loss difference.

micko24 · 03-19-2010, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzuki28

yeah thats what carls said but they wanted like almost 500 bucks for all that guess if thats what we have to do illl buy for him but any ideas if that what needs to be done to his bike. its like when its cold it wont start but when we jump start it and it warms up it runs fine

but that how much they are tho minus labor. better look online,ebay and have someone " a friend" that has the tools to help u out, thats pretty much how u can save. although, Andy at moto one is pretty competitive with his pricing and labor. just dont go to the stealerships like the big four in the boise area.

Ryan@IdahoSportBikes · 03-19-2010, 03:30 PM

The part "CYLINDER HEAD" #: 12200-MEB-770 (replaces 12200-MEB-670), is $263 at mrcycles.com

turbolq4 · 03-19-2010, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzuki28

Well his bike doesn't start. we have to jump start it always he thinks hes knows how ti fix things becasue hes a jet air mcn. But honda told me the head needs to be rebuilt and I know the valves have been adjusted twice already any idea

sell it and get a two stroke

IDAHOBALLER · 03-20-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolq4

sell it and get a two stroke

Agreed! Thats what I did. Sold my 08 YZ450 and replaced it with 2 2 smokers! No more damn valves or any of that chit to worry about any more. In fact both of my 2 stroke bike engines combined still dont have as many internal moving parts as that one 450 did inside. 2 strokers for life!

But four strokes are cool too, just in different ways. I would like to have a Honda XR650R! They are a kick ass enduro/desert bike once they have had a little suspension work done.

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03-10-2010, 11:34 PM	#1
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	Need a Head for a 2002 Honda CRF450r Any idea's Sites Yeah I need to get a new or used head for my brother 2002 honda crf450r any ideas site anyone knows of. Damn dealer here wants a arm and a leg to rebuild it. Just trying to get it done for cheap for him or get a used one. Sucks not having anyone to ride with.. Let me know Pleasee!!!!!

03-10-2010, 11:38 PM	#2
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	whats wrong with the head #1 and midwestaction.com sells them at a good price

03-10-2010, 11:41 PM	#3
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	Well his bike doesn't start. we have to jump start it always he thinks hes knows how ti fix things becasue hes a jet air mcn. But honda told me the head needs to be rebuilt and I know the valves have been adjusted twice already any idea

03-10-2010, 11:44 PM	#4
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	was that site midwestactioncycle because that site isnt working

03-10-2010, 11:45 PM	#5
BuellCru Joined: Apr 2009 From: Boise Posts: 2,375 I Ride: Buell Firebolt XB12R	If the head isn't cracked you should be able to have it re-sleeved and buy a new piston kit.

03-10-2010, 11:47 PM	#6
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	yeah thats what carls said but they wanted like almost 500 bucks for all that guess if thats what we have to do illl buy for him but any ideas if that what needs to be done to his bike. its like when its cold it wont start but when we jump start it and it warms up it runs fine

03-10-2010, 11:49 PM	#7
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	sounds like its getting close to needing new valves or adjustment swing the bike by i have done this to many time lol its not that bad i can teach ya how to adjust the valves or replace the head depending on what ya need after looking at it !

03-10-2010, 11:50 PM	#8
BuellCru Joined: Apr 2009 From: Boise Posts: 2,375 I Ride: Buell Firebolt XB12R	Check the compression first and see if there is any issues. If I remember correctly you should read between 100 - 105 lbs...Wait, I'll go look that up. BRB

03-10-2010, 11:55 PM	#9
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	Ok loopy Ill have to get his bike this weekened but hope its not in pieces lol which it may be... Yeah we have adjusted the valves already even by carls seems like me might need a head we will see

03-10-2010, 11:55 PM	#10
cms1172 Senior Member Joined: Jun 2007 From: The Middle of Nowhere? Posts: 2,174 I Ride: Buell 1125CR	There are several shops in town that specialize in head work. I know of one just on cole road, at Amity. for 500 you could probably get a whole engine. through ebay.

03-10-2010, 11:56 PM	#11
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	Ill check compression to thanks man

03-10-2010, 11:57 PM	#12
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	yeah I know Ill have to tell him thats what I keep telling him lol but if you buy from ebay you dont know what your getting

03-10-2010, 11:58 PM	#13
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	remember it has a decompression to ease starting so 65psi to 75psi is normal

03-10-2010, 11:59 PM	#14
Suzuki28 Member Joined: Mar 2009 From: Meridian Posts: 62 I Ride: 07 Suzuki GSX-R1000, 07 Yamaha yz450f	k

03-11-2010, 12:00 AM	#15
BuellCru Joined: Apr 2009 From: Boise Posts: 2,375 I Ride: Buell Firebolt XB12R	Another possibility is new valves all together. If Loopy has done this many times he may know how to do a leak down test on it. A leak down test will determine whether or not you need new valves. If he can't run it over to Suicycle in Nampa on 3rd Ave. They should be able to do it pretty cheap. They now have the stuff for doing that bike since they did mine.

03-11-2010, 12:02 AM	#16
loopy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2007 From: nampa Posts: 1,094 I Ride: 07 cbr 600rr	yup good place

03-11-2010, 03:40 AM	#18
lost cause Senior Member Joined: Jul 2009 From: boise Posts: 745 I Ride: low and slow	i may know were to get a head localy if it comes to that pm me ill hook u up with the guys number

03-19-2010, 01:19 AM	#20
hondarider Junior Member Joined: Mar 2010 From: Boise, ID Posts: 6	Hondas are notorious for their valves. I redid my valves recently because I was down to the smallest shim I could put in there from the Hot cams shim kit. Once those titanium valves start to go, you have to shim them sooner each time. I converted to stainless on the intakes. Not sure if I felt any power loss difference.

03-19-2010, 03:30 PM	#22
Ryan@IdahoSportBikes Senior Member Joined: Jun 2006 From: Boise Posts: 2,943 I Ride: R6	The part "CYLINDER HEAD" #: 12200-MEB-770 (replaces 12200-MEB-670), is $263 at mrcycles.com